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Re: [NF] What’s c ontrolling U.S. nu kes ? 8-inch flop py disks
by Ted Roche 30 May '16

30 May '16

On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Gene Wirchenko <genew(a)telus.net> wrote: > The same could be stated for VFP. > > There are also many stories of replacement system fiascos. > > I get tired of the throwaway mentality. One poster on > alt.folklore.computers does metalwork, and some of his equipment is about a > century old. Do you it might ever happen with software? > Oh, sure! Various parts of the technology need to reach a level of maturity where they are good enough, flexible enough and can't be improved on. We started working with metal 5 or 6 thousand years ago, and no doubt there are some tools that were pretty mature 500 years ago. I'll bet vim and emacs live a long life. They already have :) -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com

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Re: [NF] Whats c ontrolling U.S. nu kes ? 8-inch flop py disks
by Gene Wirchenko 30 May '16

30 May '16

At 11:38 2016-05-27, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke(a)fastmail.fm> wrote: >It's not the fact that it's an old system per se, it's an old system for >which spare parts and people with the relevant skills to maintain it are >rapidly disappearing. The same could be stated for VFP. There are also many stories of replacement system fiascos. I get tired of the throwaway mentality. One poster on alt.folklore.computers does metalwork, and some of his equipment is about a century old. Do you it might ever happen with software? [snip] Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko

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[NF] Easier than counting
by Jerry Wolper 30 May '16

30 May '16

The first item here is software solving another of society's problems: http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/05/four-pictures-and-video -Jerry --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---

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[NF] What’s controlling U.S. nukes? 8-inch floppy disks
by Michael Madigan 29 May '16

29 May '16

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/whats-controlling-us-nukes-8-inch-floppy-d…

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Re: A Strange Excel Data Problem...
by Gene Wirchenko 27 May '16

27 May '16

At 06:44 2016-05-27, Kurt Wendt <Kurt_Wendt(a)globetax.com> wrote: [snip] >But - of course, its Straight data being exported - NO Formulas! No bends in your data? Excel can supply you some. (You still are not safe.) Excel can do some weird things with data. There was a case in RISKS where a bunch of genetics data got munged. Some of the gene names (like 12E34) looked like numbers in E-notation; Excel "helpfully" converted them and munged the data. >Any input would be greatly appreciated. Please let us know the outcome. Protecting against the Microsoft Office Suite is unfortunately necessary at times. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko

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RE: [NF] Whats controlling U.S. nukes? 8-inch flop py disks
by Gene Wirchenko 27 May '16

27 May '16

At 05:23 2016-05-27, Dave Crozier <DaveC(a)Flexipol.co.uk> wrote: >-----Original Message----- >From: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan >Sent: 27 May 2016 13:22 >To: ProFox Email List <profox(a)leafe.com> >Subject: [NF] What's controlling U.S. nukes? 8-inch floppy disks > >http://www.marketwatch.com/story/whats-controlling-us-nukes-8-inch-floppy-d… >Scary but not entirely unexpected! Why is it scary for a system to work for years and years? Would you prefer that it break? >Thinking about that I wonder if the VFP USAF logistics program is >still running. JFAST, and apparently so. I wonder if it is still mainly written in VFP. If so, would you find it scary? The idea that just because something is older that there is something wrong with continuing to use it is one that I think needs to be stomped on. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko

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SYS(2050)
by Laurie Alvey 27 May '16

27 May '16

On FoxWiki, there is an entry about SYS(2050) which apparently creates some sort of log file. The function does not appear in the VFP Help file - anyone know anything more about it? Laurie --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---

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?(Date() + INT(1 / 0) ) > Date(9999,12,31)
by Tracy Pearson 27 May '16

27 May '16

One of the testers here recently discovered a bit of code that when broken down did this: ?(Date() + INT(1 / 0) ) > Date(9999,12,31) It returns true. However, put that actual value in printed form and it displays as " / / " Just something for the oddities in your VFP collection. Tracy

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Re: Finding which code is executing
by Joe Yoder 26 May '16

26 May '16

Thanks guys for the input. I had assumed there might be a function to figure out which code will run the same way Foxpro does. The problem with sys(16) is how to get it into the code when I don't know where it is. I concluded that I should try to give the routine something to do that will make it blow up and hopefully give away its location but before I tried that everything appeared to return to normal. (the debug stuff in the edited code started working.) The Visa import routine is included in the project along with others like Discover and Checking. An Import control table stores the routine names along with appropriate parameters. The routines are called as my code scans the table and call the appropriate routines. When I renamed the routine I changed the name in the control table but did not add the new routine to the project. The compiler never noticed that a new routine will be called and does not complain or auto add the new routine. This behavior is expected. As far as I know this approach has nothing to do with the behavior I experienced but it may be that others may see a connection I don't. Thanks again, Joe On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Gene Wirchenko <genew(a)telus.net> wrote: > At 08:23 2016-05-24, "Tracy Pearson" <tracy(a)powerchurch.com> wrote: > >> Joe Yoder wrote on 2016-05-24: >> > I have a small procedure file, visa.prg. in my current project folder >> that >> > imports data from .csv files. I need to support a slightly different >> > format so I added some debugging code but it does not run. When I >> made a >> > copy with a different name it worked as expected. >> > >> > Is there a way to have the system tell me the location of the running >> code? >> > > You can kinda figure some of that out through the debugger. >> I would search for PRGs and Functions/Procedures with of the name you were >> calling. (Visa I would assume) >> >> VFP doesn't complain when you have two Functions of the same name in a >> PRG. >> It runs the last one found in the PRG. >> >> I have not tested, and do not know which will fire when you have a PRG >> and a >> Function named the same. >> > > I was recently bit by having two methods in a class named the same. > You would think that this would generate a compilation error, but it does > not. > > My debugging code was not being executed either. > > I only discovered it accidentally when I got desperate and started > instrumenting the entire class and saw what looked like (and was) a > duplicate name. > > I suggest that you check this possibility before writing more > debugging code (which is not going to get executed anyway). > > Sincerely, > > Gene Wirchenko > > [excessive quoting removed by server]

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Finding which code is executing
by Joe Yoder 24 May '16

24 May '16

I have a small procedure file, visa.prg. in my current project folder that imports data from .csv files. I need to support a slightly different format so I added some debugging code but it does not run. When I made a copy with a different name it worked as expected. Is there a way to have the system tell me the location of the running code? Thanks in advance, Joe --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---

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