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ProFox List Statistics for February 2017
by List Administrator Account 01 Mar '17

01 Mar '17

================================================== ProFox List Statistics February 2017 ================================================== Subscriber Count at End of Month: ProFox: 287 ProFoxTech: 187 ================================================== Total Posts: 276 (Up 63.31% from January 2017) Total [OT] Posts: 2 (Up 100.0% from January 2017) Total [NF] Posts: 46 (Down 4.17% from January 2017) Daily Message Counts for February 2017 ------------------------------------------------ DOW Date Count --- ---- ----- W 1 - 11 T 2 - 12 F 3 - 29 S 4 - 1 S 5 - 1 M 6 - 7 T 7 - 28 W 8 - 11 T 9 - 8 F 10 - 18 S 11 - 10 M 13 - 9 T 14 - 23 W 15 - 4 T 16 - 18 F 17 - 15 M 20 - 14 T 21 - 19 W 22 - 3 T 23 - 4 F 24 - 4 M 27 - 21 T 28 - 6 Message Counts By Day of Week for February 2017 ------------------------------------------------ DOW Count --- ----- Sun - 1 Mon - 51 Tue - 76 Wed - 29 Thu - 42 Fri - 66 Sat - 11 Distinct Posters to the List (changes relative to January 2017) ------------------------------------------------ Non-OT messages: 40 (Down 16.67%) OT messages: 2 (Up 100.0%) NF messages: 17 (Down 19.05%) Total number: 41 (Down 14.58%) Top 20 Contributors by Number of Non-OT Posts ------------------------------------------------ | Posts Contributor | ------------------------------------------------ 1. 27 Dave Crozier 2. 23 Alan Bourke 3. 21 mbsoftwaresolutions(a)mbsoftwaresolutions.com 4. 18 Richard Kaye 5. 18 Ted Roche 6. 15 Fernando D. Bozzo 7. 13 Gene Wirchenko 8. 13 AndyHC 9. 12 Paul Newton 10. 10 Thierry Nivelet 11. 8 Tracy Pearson 12. 8 Ken Dibble 13. 7 Stephen Russell 14. 7 Rick Schummer 15. 6 Ed Leafe 16. 6 Fred Taylor 17. 6 Paul H. Tarver 18. 6 rafael copquin 19. 5 Jan Bucek 20. 5 John Weller Top 2 Contributors by Number of OT Posts ------------------------------------------------ | Posts OT% Contributor | ------------------------------------------------ 1. 1 7% Gene Wirchenko 2. 1 100% Michael Madigan Top 17 Contributors by Number of NF Posts ------------------------------------------------ | Posts Contributor | ------------------------------------------------ 1. 11 Dave Crozier 2. 7 Ken Dibble 3. 5 AndyHC 4. 4 Ted Roche 5. 3 John Weller 6. 2 Alan Bourke 7. 2 Dave Thayer 8. 2 Kevin J Cully 9. 2 Gene Wirchenko 10. 1 José Enrique Llopis 11. 1 rafael copquin 12. 1 Michael Glassman 13. 1 Malcolm Greene 14. 1 Jan Bucek 15. 1 Vince Teachout 16. 1 Mike 17. 1 Stephen Russell Top 20 Contributors by Total Number of Posts ------------------------------------------------ | Posts Contributor | ------------------------------------------------ 1. 27 Dave Crozier 2. 23 Alan Bourke 3. 21 mbsoftwaresolutions(a)mbsoftwaresolutions.com 4. 18 Richard Kaye 5. 18 Ted Roche 6. 15 Fernando D. Bozzo 7. 14 Gene Wirchenko 8. 13 AndyHC 9. 12 Paul Newton 10. 10 Thierry Nivelet 11. 8 Tracy Pearson 12. 8 Ken Dibble 13. 7 Stephen Russell 14. 7 Rick Schummer 15. 6 Ed Leafe 16. 6 Fred Taylor 17. 6 Paul H. Tarver 18. 6 rafael copquin 19. 5 Jan Bucek 20. 5 John Weller Top 16 Contributors by Number of New Threads Started ------------------------------------------------ | Posts Contributor | ------------------------------------------------ 1. 4 mbsoftwaresolutions(a)mbsoftwaresolutions.com 2. 3 Alan Bourke 3. 3 Ken Dibble 4. 2 Paul Newton 5. 2 Paul H. Tarver 6. 1 List Administrator Account 7. 1 John Weller 8. 1 Dave Crozier 9. 1 Richard Kaye 10. 1 Tracy Pearson 11. 1 Ted Roche 12. 1 Rick Schummer 13. 1 William Tormey 14. 1 Gene Wirchenko 15. 1 Graham Brown 16. 1 pamechu umgobwe Top 20 Non-OT Threads by Total Number of Posts ------------------------------------------------------------------ | Posts Subject | ------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. 29 Diffing VCXs 2. 27 SQL Backend Question - Part Deux 3. 23 [NF] Drop-Dead Simple USB Drive Encryption 4. 23 Copy Excel worksheet to another workbook 5. 17 SQL Backend Question 6. 17 X# 7. 13 [NF] Anti-Virus Programs 8. 12 Scope Resolution :: 9. 12 VFP Codeplex site down? 10. 11 TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated 11. 11 So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated) 12. 10 [NF] Unbiased Cyber Security Resources 13. 10 Trying to create shortcut text 14. 8 VFP6 / Codemine7 kill switch 15. 6 "Cannot locate the Microsoft Visual FoxPro Support Library" 16. 6 Grid - Height : Expression evaluated to an illegal value 17. 5 Flashback Friday 18. 5 ActiveX Question 19. 4 Integrating FoxBin2PRG (was Diffing VCXs) 20. 4 WOULD LOVE TO BUY VFP 9 +SP2 . Top 2 OT Threads by Total Number of Posts ------------------------------------------------------------------ | Posts Subject | ------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. 1 [OT] Non-Natives' English (was: SQL Backend Question - Part Deux) 2. 1 [OT] Non-Natives' English (was: SQL Backend Question - Part Deux) Top 20 Threads by Total Number of Posts ------------------------------------------------------------------ | Posts Subject | ------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. 29 Diffing VCXs 2. 27 SQL Backend Question - Part Deux 3. 23 [NF] Drop-Dead Simple USB Drive Encryption 4. 23 Copy Excel worksheet to another workbook 5. 17 SQL Backend Question 6. 17 X# 7. 13 [NF] Anti-Virus Programs 8. 12 Scope Resolution :: 9. 12 VFP Codeplex site down? 10. 11 TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated 11. 11 So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated) 12. 10 [NF] Unbiased Cyber Security Resources 13. 10 Trying to create shortcut text 14. 8 VFP6 / Codemine7 kill switch 15. 6 "Cannot locate the Microsoft Visual FoxPro Support Library" 16. 6 Grid - Height : Expression evaluated to an illegal value 17. 5 Flashback Friday 18. 5 ActiveX Question 19. 4 Integrating FoxBin2PRG (was Diffing VCXs) 20. 4 WOULD LOVE TO BUY VFP 9 +SP2 .

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VFP Codeplex site down?
by Richard Kaye 28 Feb '17

28 Feb '17

I'm just getting a blank page in Chrome. Anyone else seeing similar results? -- rk --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---

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Grid - Height : Expression evaluated to an illegal value
by Tracy Pearson 28 Feb '17

28 Feb '17

Hello, I have run in to an odd error. I have a common grid. It has been placed on a pageframe class. It is used only in one form, multiple times on that form. The hierarchy: grid is on a page of a pageframe, on a container, on a page of a pageframe, on a page of a pageframe, on a form. For some reason, when a user has configured their system to 350% DPI I get this error. "Grid - Height : Expression evaluated to an illegal value" I've added a method "height_assign" to capture things. So the new value is 58, the current value is 94. The parent Pageframe height is 131. The call stack suggests it is during form instantiation, before the Form INIT. Yet this one complicated form is the only form we've seen this error on. Does anyone have some thoughts about what to try? Thank you, Tracy

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ActiveX Question
by Dave Crozier 28 Feb '17

28 Feb '17

Gentlemen, Just come across a really weird problem whilst installing some software on a new machine. It uses MSCAL.OCX as an ActiveX component which on the majority of machines is installed by default. However in this case it isn't and hence requires regsvr32 to register it - or (as I thought) simply to place the ocx into the folder of the application where it should be picked up automaticall - which it is NOT doing! Is this just a feature of MSCAL.OCX i.e it can't be put into the application folder and why doesn't it work!!! Unfortunately the machine(s) I am loading it on are locked down as non administrator users and nobody seems to know the administrator password on the network due to the network being managed by a 3rd party who are not available... Any ideas? Dave --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---

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Southwest Fox/Xbase++ 2017: Call for Speakers
by Rick Schummer 27 Feb '17

27 Feb '17

We've issued the Call for Speakers (http://www.swfox.net/CallForSpeakers.pdf) for Southwest Fox 2017 and Southwest Xbase++ 2017. If you are interested in presenting at either conference, please read the document and consider submitting sessions via the Geek Gatherings Submission Web site (https://geekgatherings.com/Submission) The conferences take place October 26-29, 2017. Session proposals are due by Monday, March 13 at 8 AM EST. Rick, Doug and Tamar Geek Gatherings

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RE: [NF] Unbiased Cyber Security Resources
by Ken Dibble 24 Feb '17

24 Feb '17

>How about actively testing your systems with penetration testing? > >https://www.kali.org/ > >When being offensive is a good thing! Bruce Schneier on penetration testing: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/05/is_penetration.html I'm inclined to agree with most of his points. Not every theoretical threat ever becomes an actual threat, and not every actual threat is an actual threat for a particular organization. The idea of security management is to apply cost/benefit analysis to find the best means to address actual vulnerabilities in a specific setting. Thanks. Ken www.stic-cil.org

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[NF] Unbiased Cyber Security Resources
by Ken Dibble 24 Feb '17

24 Feb '17

Hi folks, I am looking for unbiased sources of information on various "cyber security" issues. That is, the source should not be trying to sell me any products or services. And the source should understand the meaning of the following terms: "individualized threat assessment" "proportionate response" I'm not looking for beginner-level stuff like "always keep your software updated" but rather objective analysis of specific types of threats and potential weaknesses. Who do you trust in these matters? Thanks to all who respond. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org

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Re: [NF] Unbiased Cyber Security Resources
by Ken Dibble 23 Feb '17

23 Feb '17

>Bruce Schneier would like you to buy his books, but he puts out an >*excellent* email newsletter at no charge with lots of good info, far >more than I can read in a month. Thanks very much Ted. This one in particular looks like a real winner. Ken

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Re: Diffing VCXs
by Gene Wirchenko 22 Feb '17

22 Feb '17

At 11:06 2017-02-21, "Fernando D. Bozzo" <fdbozzo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >2017-02-21 19:26 GMT+01:00 Gene Wirchenko <genew(a)telus.net>: > > > At 06:36 2017-02-21, "Fernando D. Bozzo" <fdbozzo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> The only adventage of using VCXs over PRGs is that: > >> - Descriptions of the methods and properties are shown by intellisense > >> when > >> you scroll them while using an instantiated class, which is not possible > >> with PRGs, except PRG-COM classes instantiated from the registered Windows > >> object. > > No loss for me. IMHO, Intellisense is too close to copy-paste. It > > is too easy to get something that looks reasonable yet might not be right. > > If you are not sure, look it up. > >You compare Intellisense with copy-paste?? o_O Yes. >About always looking at the code.... yes, you can continue programming like >at the beginning of the pre-PC era, but now TV is in color, do you know?... I would like to compliment you on your excellent manners. Please show some so that I might do so. >I mean, productive tools are exactly for that: to be more productive with >less effort, so if you carefully name methods and set usefull tooltips for >intellisense, the idea is that you are more productive because you don't >need to look at the code. Yes, that is what they are for. So do they do the job? Some people have been caught by Intellisense with set path to to They type a "to", and Intellisense also adds one in. Too many automatic tools screw things up, and they often do it in a way that a person would not so you do not know what to look for. I once had my resume messed up by Word. I was in a hurry and did not turn off auto-correct (What a misnomer!) Word "corrected" my E-mail address for me. I just happened to see a flash and discovered it. If I had not seen the flash, my application would have gone out with an incorrect E-mail address. Since I program, I do look at the code. >How do you program and know what parameters are needed t pass to a method? If I do not know, I look it up. My procedures tend to have a description of each parameter and what the method does. >with intellisense off? That's just throwing many years of usabillity and >tooling for the sake of being sure... Sure. I value being sure that I got something right. Anything getting in the way of that is anti-usability. [snip] > > I code almost only with .prg files (so I do not know what most of the > > above means). The only exception was setting printer orientation for which > > I had to create two .frt files. >I can understand it with classes, but what do you do with forms, labels, >reports, menus, ...? I create them in code. > > I do not know what most of the above means > >Well, I'm talking about PRGs, so If you use them then should know what is a >Session class, a batch replace a COM object and a merge... I do not use them. I coded the app before that got added. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko

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RE: Scope Resolution ::
by Gene Wirchenko 21 Feb '17

21 Feb '17

At 23:36 2017-02-15, mbsoftwaresolutions(a)mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: >On 2017-02-14 17:29, Gene Wirchenko wrote: >>At 01:54 2017-02-14, Dave Crozier <DaveC(a)Flexipol.co.uk> wrote: >>>Mike, >>>It is extremely hands in certain circumstances and can save you >>>loads of extra programming work. However like yourself I tend to >>>forget about it (as opposed to never knowing about it!!) and only >>>after the event do I realise I could have made life easier for myself!! >> I might have used it the odd time, but dodefault() does it for me. >but this use of the Scope Resolution operator allowed me to jump 2 >levels in the OOP hierarchy, Gene. DODEFAULT(x,y) would have ran >the method 1 above, and that's not what I needed. Like I said, at >first, it didn't seem very OOP to me, but revisiting it, I suppose it is. It is not very OOP. I do not know enough about your case to judge whether I would do that, too, but I rather doubt it. It has the smell of a kludge, but sometimes, kludges are necessary. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko

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