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VFP9rerr.log file supposedly created...but not there
by mbsoftwaresolutions＠mbsoftwaresolutions.com 11 Dec '17

11 Dec '17

https://www.screencast.com/t/ZWpHnejMqdZ3 What the heck? Auto-upgrade code that had been working is suddenly not, but what's more bizarre is the system telling me there's a log file when the screenshot clearly shot's there NOT any such file. Am I going crazy?

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[NF] Restart now or later?
by Ted Roche 09 Dec '17

09 Dec '17

Windows is shipping new updates early this month. In the latest "Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition Update" version, they now have a pretty panel and call them "Feature Updates" rather than bug fixes, but you know what that means. Info on the Windows Security Site [1] seems to indicate it's a fix for many of their security products. That, combined with the week-early date, make me suspect something's in the wild they don't want people to catch. Word to the wise. "Working on updates 0% Don't turn off your machine. This will take a while" my machine tells me. Still. After a while. Where do you want to go today? [1] https://portal.msrc.microsoft.com/en-us/security-guidance -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com

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Re: [NF] Restart now or later?
by mbsoftwaresolutions＠mbsoftwaresolutions.com 08 Dec '17

08 Dec '17

On 2017-12-08 12:40, Ken Dibble wrote: > I usually go ERP a few times after drinking some beers and eating some > barbecue.... BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: [NF] Restart now or later?
by Kurt at VR-FX 08 Dec '17

08 Dec '17

Actually - Bad Steve Totally screwed up the phrase - since its really about Black & White - which, in my case - it never held true - as I flipped back! :-) -K- On 12/8/2017 12:40 PM, Ken Dibble wrote: > >> Bad Ken is stealing my line! >> >> Once you go ERP you never go back. > > I usually go ERP a few times after drinking some beers and eating some > barbecue.... > > Ken > [excessive quoting removed by server]

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Re: [NF] Restart now or later?
by Ken Dibble 08 Dec '17

08 Dec '17

>Bad Ken is stealing my line! > >Once you go ERP you never go back. I usually go ERP a few times after drinking some beers and eating some barbecue.... Ken

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Re: [NF] Restart now or later?
by Stephen Russell 08 Dec '17

08 Dec '17

Bad Ken is stealing my line! Once you go ERP you never go back. On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Ken Dibble <krdibble(a)stny.rr.com> wrote: > > > As I said in the other thread on this topic: Experts recommend that >> people >> > should not rely on a single product, no matter who makes it, >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------- >> >> You shoudl talk to more ERP vendors for a different opinion. >> >> >> hahahahaha >> > > Yeah, I should have been more specific. > > *Computer* experts, not *marketing* experts. > > *LOL* > > -- Bad Ken ;-> > [excessive quoting removed by server]

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Re: [NF] Restart now or later?
by Ken Dibble 08 Dec '17

08 Dec '17

> > As I said in the other thread on this topic: Experts recommend that people > > should not rely on a single product, no matter who makes it, > >> > >> > >> ------------------- > >You shoudl talk to more ERP vendors for a different opinion. > > >hahahahaha Yeah, I should have been more specific. *Computer* experts, not *marketing* experts. *LOL* -- Bad Ken ;->

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Re: [NF] Restart now or later?
by Stephen Russell 08 Dec '17

08 Dec '17

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Ken Dibble <krdibble(a)stny.rr.com> wrote: > > However, even third party SW can have flaws in its SW! Right? >> > > As I said in the other thread on this topic: Experts recommend that people > should not rely on a single product, no matter who makes it, >> >> >> ------------------- You shoudl talk to more ERP vendors for a different opinion. hahahahaha -- Stephen Russell Sr. Analyst Ring Container Technology Oakland TN 901.246-0159 cell --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---

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Re: [NF] Restart now or later?
by Kurt at VR-FX 08 Dec '17

08 Dec '17

Ken - when you mentioned the "other thread" - I thought you were referring to MY recent thread. But, upon filtering - I didn't see a reply from you on that thread. However, I just searched your name in my inbox & found the BitDefender thread. I didn't read that particular thread - since I had never heard of that app before. So - I'm going to read thru that thread now. Funny - since we currently have 3 recent threads all discussing about the same topic. -K- On 12/8/2017 11:27 AM, Ken Dibble wrote: > >> However, even third party SW can have flaws in its SW! Right? > > As I said in the other thread on this topic: Experts recommend that > people should not rely on a single product, no matter who makes it, > for anti-malware protection. Every product behaves differently and > catches some threats while missing others. My statement in this thread > was what I tell people when they ask me if they should just rely on > Windows Defender. > > Note that I also said in the other thread that you should have > multiple products installed and use them for manual scans. You should > only have ONE *real-time scanner* running at any given time. > > Ken > >> And - since this thread is bringing up issues w/Malware protection - >> and I had started another thread about malware - maybe its a good >> time to ask. What DO People use to protect against Malware? And, is >> MalWareBytes the best protection against MalWare?? >> >> -K- >> >> >> On 12/8/2017 10:07 AM, Ken Dibble wrote: >>> Meanwhile, other links say this is an issue with the Windows >>> "Malware Protection Engine"--Windows Defender. >>> >>> The reason why Windows Defender isn't good enough is because it is >>> manufactured by the same company that makes the OSes that it's >>> supposed to protect. It is likely dependent on code in those OSes, >>> and if there are flaws in that code, then there will be flaws in >>> Windows Defender. >>> >>> That is the explanation I give people when I am asked if they should >>> rely on Windows Defender instead of using third-party malware >>> protection. >>> >>> Now I have actual data to back me up. >> >> [excessive quoting removed by server]

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Re: [NF] Restart now or later?
by Kurt at VR-FX 08 Dec '17

08 Dec '17

Years ago, when it was called Essentials - the anti-virus SW by M$ - the question was raised here. It may have been me that asked it. But, the idea was that - since M$ makes the OS - then, in Theory - they are also the best ones to be able to Protect that OS from attacks. But, now you're saying just the opposite. However, I see what you mean. If there are flaws in the OS - and protection SW is based upon parts of the OS - then there will be flaws in the virus or malware protection. However, even third party SW can have flaws in its SW! Right? And - since this thread is bringing up issues w/Malware protection - and I had started another thread about malware - maybe its a good time to ask. What DO People use to protect against Malware? And, is MalWareBytes the best protection against MalWare?? -K- On 12/8/2017 10:07 AM, Ken Dibble wrote: > Meanwhile, other links say this is an issue with the Windows "Malware > Protection Engine"--Windows Defender. > > The reason why Windows Defender isn't good enough is because it is > manufactured by the same company that makes the OSes that it's > supposed to protect. It is likely dependent on code in those OSes, and > if there are flaws in that code, then there will be flaws in Windows > Defender. > > That is the explanation I give people when I am asked if they should > rely on Windows Defender instead of using third-party malware protection. > > Now I have actual data to back me up.

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