ProFox October 2017

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[NF] Question to our UK & EU members
by Stephen Russell 26 Oct '17

26 Oct '17

I heard yesterday in a meeting about a need of/for data separation for UK business and EU. Nobody knew anything past that vague phrase. Can someone shed any light on this for me? I am defining SQL Storage and I thought that I heard that some data cannot leave either the UK or the EU and come back home to our HQ in the USA. We have a UK plant that ships to some partners in the EU as well as the local ones in the UK. You can message me privately or post to the group about this. Thank you. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Analyst Ring Container Technology Oakland TN 901.246-0159 cell --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---

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[NF] SPOILER: Software Dev is Hard
by Ted Roche 26 Oct '17

26 Oct '17

Three weeks ago, now, On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Thierry Nivelet <tnivelet(a)foxincloud.com> wrote: > Well, I often read from experts that rewriting a s/w using new techs was a piece of cake > > Thierry Nivelet > http://foxincloud.com/ > Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud Thierry: I wanted to follow up on this. Given a full set of specifications on what the old software does, And a full set of specifications of all the changes the client wants for the new software, And a full set of tests to ensure 100% compliance, it's a piece of cake. Very expensive and slow, but cake. Fresh coding in a new language with modern tools is faster, but that's the smallest part of application development. I was amazed what kind of power I could find in PHP or Python or Ruby. Next year, I celebrate (?) the 40th anniversary of shipping my first commercial application. I have rewritten several applications from FPD to VFP, and from VFP to PHP or Rails, and there is always undocumented behavior that turns out to be key to the application, and very complex and time-consuming to backfill into the new application when it is discovered late in the process. It's also essential that at least some of the developers have expertise both in the old language and the new one. In one case I had to explain to a client that the textbook-perfect description of the algorithm they provided me with was all very nice, but it wasn't actually how their FoxBase system had been running for the past 15 years. It's hard to tie out new results with old results when they do different math. And persnickety things like precision and rounding rules as you switch front-end languages and back-end storage make that tougher than some imagine. But, as someone recently pointed out in another thread, it is also hard to do "blank slate" development where the client *thinks* they know what they want, but invariably, it is something else they need. In the best of all worlds, you need a full specification on what the software does, and a set of tests to show 100% compliance, and it is almost impossible to produce, until you've written the system. Clients may understand how their business works, but managers view their world through the 90% case and skim over the exceptions, while front-line workers deal with the exceptions all day and miss the big picture. In sum, software development is *hard*. In reality, a slow, deliberate, iterative system of incrementally building a new system from the old is the only thing I've ever seen succeed. It's hard, it's more expensive and it takes more time that anyone wants it to, but the end result can be an application the client can run with, expand their business, and compete successfully for the next 20 years.

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[OT] Nothing here, move along
by Charlie-gm 26 Oct '17

26 Oct '17

Strange problems with post to profox not showing up. Possibly something with Gmail deleting the message because it thinks its a duplicate of the send email. I tried changing some Gmail settings. Let's see if I get this email...

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Checkbox Problem
by John Weller 25 Oct '17

25 Oct '17

I have a checkbox in a grid. The column and the checkbox control source are both set to the same field in the table. The table is open in the data environment with BufferModeOverride set to 5, optimistic table buffering. If I put the TableUpdate command in the InteractiveChange method of the checkbox any change is not committed but if I put the identical code in a button instead then the change is committed. What am I doing wrong? :-( John John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631

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Thor adjustment will be needed in your IDE soon
by mbsoftwaresolutions＠mbsoftwaresolutions.com 25 Oct '17

25 Oct '17

Since CodePlex is shutting down soon, you'll probably have to adjust your Thor IDE's if you haven't already. https://www.screencast.com/t/W6wOW2Kb

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Using AWS from a VFP app
by mbsoftwaresolutions＠mbsoftwaresolutions.com 25 Oct '17

25 Oct '17

Is anyone here using AWS on the backend of their VFP app? Searching the ProFox archives, I noticed this recent thread in the past year: https://leafe.com/archives/full_thread/508558 Currently I use a MySQL (MariaDB) database from my ISP but wondered about AWS since we use that at my corporate daytime gig.

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Windows server shows open Foxpro files when none should be open
by Michael Madigan 25 Oct '17

25 Oct '17

This is weird, Under computer management->shared folders->open files, I can see files that the server believes are open, listed with me having them open, after all my foxpro sessions are closed, even after a refresh. I know they're not open because I can open them exclusively with no error. They eventually go away, but it's 5 or more minutes later. I'm using Foxpro for Windows 2.6 and Windows Server 2008. I don't ever remember seeing this behavior before. Any ideas? --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---

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FW: Refox?
by Richard Kaye 24 Oct '17

24 Oct '17

Hi Profoxers, I have a long-time client who pinged me about running some ancient FXPs through Refox. I never had a copy but thought I'd see if someone here on the list would be kind enough to assist. If so, please let me know. TIA -- rk From: Paul Blank Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 10:57 AM To: Richard Kaye <rkaye(a)invaluable.com> Subject: Refox? Hi Richard, Happy warm fall! Any chance you guys have refox lying around? Have a few old foxpro-dos modules to decompile... Cheers, Paul --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---

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[NF] Even in tech
by Stephen Russell 23 Oct '17

23 Oct '17

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/10/several-women-accuse-tech-pundi… -- Stephen Russell Sr. Analyst Ring Container Technology Oakland TN 901.246-0159 cell --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---

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Zoho CRM
by Chris Davis 23 Oct '17

23 Oct '17

Hi All Has anyone had any experience working with the Zoho CRM API via VFP? Regards Chris. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ______________________________________________________________________ --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---

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