I'm investigating whether a) I can relay mail from leafe.com http://leafe.com/ through gmail, and b) whether that will make a difference for ProFox email, which has a tendency to be rejected because it's not coming from a big company.
So I've verified a), and this email is a test of b).
-- Ed Leafe
For what it's worth I do not see the usual this is spam banner I normally see on ProFox emails.
On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 3:25 PM Ed Leafe ed@leafe.com wrote:
I'm investigating whether a) I can relay mail from leafe.com < http://leafe.com/%3E through gmail, and b) whether that will make a difference for ProFox email, which has a tendency to be rejected because it's not coming from a big company.
So I've verified a), and this email is a test of b).
-- Ed Leafe
[excessive quoting removed by server]
On Jul 11, 2025, at 15:26, Jeff Roberts jefflroberts@gmail.com wrote:
For what it's worth I do not see the usual this is spam banner I normally see on ProFox emails.
That's progress! 😁
Can you send me the headers from this email? Send it to ed@leafe.com mailto:ed@leafe.com to avoid cluttering up the list.
-- Ed Leafe
Done. Let me know if that isn't everything you need or if I can provide anything else! -Jeff
On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 3:53 PM Ed Leafe ed@leafe.com wrote:
On Jul 11, 2025, at 15:26, Jeff Roberts jefflroberts@gmail.com wrote:
For what it's worth I do not see the usual this is spam banner I normally see on ProFox emails.
That's progress! 😁
Can you send me the headers from this email? Send it to ed@leafe.com mailto:ed@leafe.com to avoid cluttering up the list.
-- Ed Leafe
[excessive quoting removed by server]
On Jul 11, 2025, at 16:00, Jeff Roberts jefflroberts@gmail.com wrote:
Done. Let me know if that isn't everything you need or if I can provide anything else! -Jeff
No, that was all I needed to verify that they mail is being relayed through gmail. Thanks!
-- Ed Leafe
Nor do I.
John
John Weller 07976 393631
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Jeff Roberts Sent: 11 July 2025 21:26 To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: *****SPAM***** Re: [ADMIN] Testing gmail relay
For what it's worth I do not see the usual this is spam banner I normally see on ProFox emails.
On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 3:25 PM Ed Leafe ed@leafe.com wrote:
I'm investigating whether a) I can relay mail from leafe.com < http://leafe.com/%3E through gmail, and b) whether that will make a difference for ProFox email, which has a tendency to be rejected because it's not coming from a big company.
So I've verified a), and this email is a test of b).
-- Ed Leafe
[excessive quoting removed by server]
But I do now.
John Weller 07976 393631
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of John Weller Sent: 11 July 2025 22:16 To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: *****SPAM***** RE: *****SPAM***** Re: [ADMIN] Testing gmail relay
Nor do I.
John
John Weller 07976 393631
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Jeff Roberts Sent: 11 July 2025 21:26 To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: *****SPAM***** Re: [ADMIN] Testing gmail relay
For what it's worth I do not see the usual this is spam banner I normally see on ProFox emails.
On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 3:25 PM Ed Leafe ed@leafe.com wrote:
I'm investigating whether a) I can relay mail from leafe.com < http://leafe.com/%3E through gmail, and b) whether that will make a difference for ProFox email, which has a tendency to be rejected because it's not coming from a big company.
So I've verified a), and this email is a test of b).
-- Ed Leafe
[excessive quoting removed by server]
I see a spam notice on John's reply. Perhaps because not U.S.?
Sent from Proton Mail Android
-------- Original Message -------- On 7/11/25 5:15 PM, John Weller John@johnweller.co.uk wrote:
Nor do I.
John
John Weller 07976 393631
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Jeff Roberts Sent: 11 July 2025 21:26 To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: *****SPAM***** Re: [ADMIN] Testing gmail relay
For what it's worth I do not see the usual this is spam banner I normally see on ProFox emails.
On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 3:25 PM Ed Leafe ed@leafe.com wrote:
I'm investigating whether a) I can relay mail from leafe.com < http://leafe.com/%3E through gmail, and b) whether that will make a difference for ProFox email, which has a tendency to be rejected because it's not coming from a big company.
So I've verified a), and this email is a test of b).
-- Ed Leafe
[excessive quoting removed by server]
Same.
On Fri, Jul 11, 2025, 19:26 Vincent Teachout vinny@caracal.net wrote:
I see a spam notice on John's reply. Perhaps because not U.S.?
Sent from Proton Mail Android
-------- Original Message -------- On 7/11/25 5:15 PM, John Weller John@johnweller.co.uk wrote:
Nor do I.
John
John Weller 07976 393631
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Jeff
Roberts
Sent: 11 July 2025 21:26 To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: *****SPAM***** Re: [ADMIN] Testing gmail relay
For what it's worth I do not see the usual this is spam banner I
normally see on
ProFox emails.
On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 3:25 PM Ed Leafe ed@leafe.com wrote:
I'm investigating whether a) I can relay mail from leafe.com < http://leafe.com/%3E through gmail, and b) whether that will make a difference for ProFox email, which has a tendency to be rejected because it's not coming from a big company.
So I've verified a), and this email is a test of b).
-- Ed Leafe
[excessive quoting removed by server]
So far I have had no problems receiving Profox emails using this Gmail account!
On Sat, Jul 12, 2025 at 4:25 AM Ed Leafe ed@leafe.com wrote:
I'm investigating whether a) I can relay mail from leafe.com http://leafe.com/ through gmail, and b) whether that will make a difference for ProFox email, which has a tendency to be rejected because it's not coming from a big company.
So I've verified a), and this email is a test of b).
Well, Man-wai, that makes One of us. I also use GMail. And, in fact, I got a bunch of the posting replies in my Gmail account. But, upon getting to work - where I use my Work email account - there was like Nearly Double the amount of emails. I suspect that some of them went into SPAM Gmail folder - which happens a LOT. For instance, I did NOT see the reply from Ted with his interesting reply pointing to Two online articles. Although - I DID get the email reply from Ed - where he replied to Ted - but, only kept the last line of Ted's reply. So - now at work today - I get the Great Joy of checking out those articles shared by Ted!!!
Thanks Ted!
-K
________________________________________ From: ProFox profox-bounces@leafe.com on behalf of Man-wai Chang changmw@gmail.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2025 3:15 AM To: profox@leafe.com profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Testing gmail relay
[You don't often get email from changmw@gmail.com. Learn why this is important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification%C2%A0] So far I have had no problems receiving Profox emails using this Gmail account!
On Sat, Jul 12, 2025 at 4:25 AM Ed Leafe ed@leafe.com wrote:
I'm investigating whether a) I can relay mail from leafe.com http://leafe.com/ through gmail, and b) whether that will make a difference for ProFox email, which has a tendency to be rejected because it's not coming from a big company.
So I've verified a), and this email is a test of b).
-- .~. Might, Courage, Vision. SINCERITY! / v \ https://github.com/changmw/changmw /( _ )\ http://sites.google.com/site/changmw ^ ^ May the Force and farces be with you!
Well, Kurt, glad you get to read the articles. I thought they were insightful, if only for their similarity to "the blind men and the elephant" story.
Ed, the reply from Kurt, perhaps mangled by his "work" Exchange server, shows a passing SPF and neutral DKIM and failing DMARC. I don't know if that was the effect you were going for.
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On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 8:43 AM Kurt Wendt kwendt@pakoinc.com wrote:
Well, Man-wai, that makes One of us.
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Well, you are definitely a busy person! It's a good thing! :)
Some Profox emails did enter my Gmail's Spam folder, but not that often.
On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 8:43 PM Kurt Wendt kwendt@pakoinc.com wrote:
Well, Man-wai, that makes One of us. I also use GMail. And, in fact, I got a bunch of the posting replies in my Gmail account. But, upon getting to work - where I use my Work email account - there was like Nearly Double the amount of emails. I suspect that some of them went into SPAM Gmail folder
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