A client may be forced to convert his legacy foxpro software to something commercial and currently commercially supported by the manufacturer. My client would prefer to keep it as is, but the decision may be out of his hands. Open source is probably out too. There is no software currently on the market that will do what he does the way he does it. What would you do? The system is relatively simple, has to support 100 simultaneous users, has to be at least as secure as Foxpro, and run from a internal server. Id love something that works like Foxpro, I.E. a DBMS package with a powerful programming language, and is easy to learn. What would you migrate it to?
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You may have a look at XBase++ from Alaska Software:
https://www.alaska-software.com/products/clipper-compatibility.cxp
2017-12-16 13:26 GMT+01:00 Michael Madigan mmadi10699@yahoo.com:
A client may be forced to convert his legacy foxpro software to something commercial and currently commercially supported by the manufacturer. My client would prefer to keep it as is, but the decision may be out of his hands. Open source is probably out too. There is no software currently on the market that will do what he does the way he does it. What would you do? The system is relatively simple, has to support 100 simultaneous users, has to be at least as secure as Foxpro, and run from a internal server. Id love something that works like Foxpro, I.E. a DBMS package with a powerful programming language, and is easy to learn. What would you migrate it to?
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I will look at this, thank you
From: Fernando D. Bozzo fdbozzo@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 9:48 AM Subject: Re: What would you do?
You may have a look at XBase++ from Alaska Software:
https://www.alaska-software.com/products/clipper-compatibility.cxp
2017-12-16 13:26 GMT+01:00 Michael Madigan mmadi10699@yahoo.com:
A client may be forced to convert his legacy foxpro software to something commercial and currently commercially supported by the manufacturer. My client would prefer to keep it as is, but the decision may be out of his hands. Open source is probably out too. There is no software currently on the market that will do what he does the way he does it. What would you do? The system is relatively simple, has to support 100 simultaneous users, has to be at least as secure as Foxpro, and run from a internal server. Id love something that works like Foxpro, I.E. a DBMS package with a powerful programming language, and is easy to learn. What would you migrate it to?
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Hi Michael,
even if I sound like a broken record: take a look at www.Lianja.com, and read first https://www.lianja.com/resources/the-lianja-vision
wOOdy
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A client may be forced to convert his legacy foxpro software to something commercial and currently commercially supported by the manufacturer. My client would prefer to keep it as is, but the decision may be out of his hands. Open source is probably out too. There is no software currently on the market that will do what he does the way he does it. What would you do? The system is relatively simple, has to support 100 simultaneous users, has to be at least as secure as Foxpro, and run from a internal server. Id love something that works like Foxpro, I.E. a DBMS package with a powerful programming language, and is easy to learn. What would you migrate it to?
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Thank you, I will check it out.
From: Jürgen Wondzinski juergen@wondzinski.de To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 12:48 PM Subject: AW: What would you do?
Hi Michael,
even if I sound like a broken record: take a look at www.Lianja.com, and read first https://www.lianja.com/resources/the-lianja-vision
wOOdy
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] Im Auftrag von Michael Madigan Gesendet: Samstag, 16. Dezember 2017 13:27 An: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Betreff: What would you do?
A client may be forced to convert his legacy foxpro software to something commercial and currently commercially supported by the manufacturer. My client would prefer to keep it as is, but the decision may be out of his hands. Open source is probably out too. There is no software currently on the market that will do what he does the way he does it. What would you do? The system is relatively simple, has to support 100 simultaneous users, has to be at least as secure as Foxpro, and run from a internal server. Id love something that works like Foxpro, I.E. a DBMS package with a powerful programming language, and is easy to learn. What would you migrate it to?
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Xojo to a PostgreSQL database. That's what I've been doing for many many years now. It's a natural migration for VFP developers.
On 12/16/2017 07:26 AM, Michael Madigan wrote:
A client may be forced to convert his legacy foxpro software to something commercial and currently commercially supported by the manufacturer. My client would prefer to keep it as is, but the decision may be out of his hands. Open source is probably out too. There is no software currently on the market that will do what he does the way he does it. What would you do? The system is relatively simple, has to support 100 simultaneous users, has to be at least as secure as Foxpro, and run from a internal server. Id love something that works like Foxpro, I.E. a DBMS package with a powerful programming language, and is easy to learn. What would you migrate it to?
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Yes. It is $699 for the pro license. You get to build as many solutions for as many clients as you see fit. Just like the VFP license
It is free to try out. You just need the license when you compile the executable for deployment
On December 16, 2017 4:57:00 PM EST, Charlie-gm ccbibleman@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/16/2017 4:35 PM, Kevin Cully wrote:
Xojo to a PostgreSQL database. That's what I've been doing for many many years now. It's a natural migration for VFP developers.
Postgres is open source but XoJo costs money doesn't it?
-Charlie
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How is the performance?
From: Kevin Cully kcully@cullytechnologies.com To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:35 PM Subject: Re: What would you do?
Xojo to a PostgreSQL database. That's what I've been doing for many many years now. It's a natural migration for VFP developers.
On 12/16/2017 07:26 AM, Michael Madigan wrote:
A client may be forced to convert his legacy foxpro software to something commercial and currently commercially supported by the manufacturer. My client would prefer to keep it as is, but the decision may be out of his hands. Open source is probably out too. There is no software currently on the market that will do what he does the way he does it. What would you do? The system is relatively simple, has to support 100 simultaneous users, has to be at least as secure as Foxpro, and run from a internal server. Id love something that works like Foxpro, I.E. a DBMS package with a powerful programming language, and is easy to learn. What would you migrate it to?
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Xojo compiles down to machine code so if there is a performance problem, it's normally my fault.
Data handling is different than VFP, so be prepared for an adjustment in that area. The language is so similar, I call it "cousin" languages.
On 12/17/2017 06:28 AM, Michael Madigan wrote:
How is the performance?
Kevin,
does xojo do Android apps? I think that's why I dropped it from my list of possible new tools to learn some years ago.
Frank.
Frank Cazabon
On 17/12/2017 02:40 PM, Kevin Cully wrote:
Xojo compiles down to machine code so if there is a performance problem, it's normally my fault.
Data handling is different than VFP, so be prepared for an adjustment in that area. The language is so similar, I call it "cousin" languages.
On 12/17/2017 06:28 AM, Michael Madigan wrote:
How is the performance?
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Not yet officially. They were supposed to release it in this last release of 2017, but it didn't make it into this release. I believe it will be in the first or second release of 2018. It'll be new so may not be feature complete. By the end of 2018, most things should have been shaken out.
The Xojo web apps can be made device aware so that you send down a different page based on the type of device connected. If you download Xojo (free), then try out the "Eddies Electronics" web sample which responds appropriately when connected from a computer browser and a phone/tablet browser.
Let me know if you have more questions.
-Kevin
On 12/18/2017 08:38 AM, Frank Cazabon wrote:
Kevin,
does xojo do Android apps? I think that's why I dropped it from my list of possible new tools to learn some years ago.
Frank.
Frank Cazabon
Thanks Kevin. I'd appreciate a heads up if/when they do include it.
Frank.
Frank Cazabon
On 18/12/2017 01:12 PM, Kevin Cully wrote:
Not yet officially. They were supposed to release it in this last release of 2017, but it didn't make it into this release. I believe it will be in the first or second release of 2018. It'll be new so may not be feature complete. By the end of 2018, most things should have been shaken out.
The Xojo web apps can be made device aware so that you send down a different page based on the type of device connected. If you download Xojo (free), then try out the "Eddies Electronics" web sample which responds appropriately when connected from a computer browser and a phone/tablet browser.
Let me know if you have more questions.
-Kevin
On 12/18/2017 08:38 AM, Frank Cazabon wrote:
Kevin,
does xojo do Android apps? I think that's why I dropped it from my list of possible new tools to learn some years ago.
Frank.
Frank Cazabon
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No problem. Their last release was focusing on making the IDE fully 64bit. Just like VFP, Xojo eats their own dog food in that the Xojo IDE is written in Xojo. If they can make a high quality IDE 64bit with Xojo, then your 64bit applications can be high quality as well. (Or not if you're a hack programmer like me!) With the 64bit IDE, you can take advantage of all of that sweet sweet RAM that we all spent good money on! :D
I'll make the announcements on ProFox about the Xojo releases. They happen 3-4 times a year.
On 12/18/2017 12:26 PM, Frank Cazabon wrote:
Thanks Kevin. I'd appreciate a heads up if/when they do include it.
Frank, just some additional food for thoughts:
Lianja does IOS, Android, Linux, MacOS, Windows apps. Either as standalone or as Appserver-based Apps.
You write them in whatever you like from this list: VFP, PHP, Phyton, Javascript, Typescript, Babel/ES6. These languages are all compiled to the same IL-code; thus you can interchangingly use whatever fits best for a specific module and you'll always find some programmers to help you out.
wOOdy
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] Im Auftrag von Frank Cazabon Gesendet: Montag, 18. Dezember 2017 14:39 An: profox@leafe.com Betreff: Re: What would you do?
Kevin,
does xojo do Android apps? I think that's why I dropped it from my list of possible new tools to learn some years ago.
Frank.
Hi wOOdy,
I did check out Lanka as well a couple years ago. It was very interesting but I found the pricing and what I actually need to purchase quite confusing. Besides that it was high on my list.
On 19 December 2017 06:28:11 GMT-04:00, "Jürgen Wondzinski" juergen@wondzinski.de wrote:
Frank, just some additional food for thoughts:
Lianja does IOS, Android, Linux, MacOS, Windows apps. Either as standalone or as Appserver-based Apps.
You write them in whatever you like from this list: VFP, PHP, Phyton, Javascript, Typescript, Babel/ES6. These languages are all compiled to the same IL-code; thus you can interchangingly use whatever fits best for a specific module and you'll always find some programmers to help you out.
wOOdy
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] Im Auftrag von Frank Cazabon Gesendet: Montag, 18. Dezember 2017 14:39 An: profox@leafe.com Betreff: Re: What would you do?
Kevin,
does xojo do Android apps? I think that's why I dropped it from my list
of possible new tools to learn some years ago.
Frank.
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Frank, "a couple of years ago"? Dude... That thing moves forward quite fast. It's not your father's tool anymore :)
wOOdy
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Hi wOOdy,
I did check out Lanka as well a couple years ago. It was very interesting but I found the pricing and what I actually need to purchase quite confusing. Besides that it was high on my list.
has to be at least as secure as Foxpro
Well, that part will be easy.
On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Alan Bourke alanpbourke@fastmail.fm wrote:
has to be at least as secure as Foxpro
Well, that part will be easy.
hahahaha
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Yo there Bad Steve - you Beat me to it! I was going to say - and reply to original posting about VFP being secure - and ask WTF that was about! Seeing as people rave how its actually MS SQL that is the Secure DB and NOT VFP! Hmpf...
-K-
On 12/17/2017 4:57 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:
On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Alan Bourke alanpbourke@fastmail.fm wrote:
has to be at least as secure as Foxpro
Well, that part will be easy.
hahahaha
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When I heard they wanted me to investigate a new program I thought it might be for security. But the reasoning is that "Foxpro is no longer supported by the manufacturer". Well I've never had an issue finding resolutions to problems either on here or elsewhere on the Internet, so to me there is no risk to staying on "Foxpro" other than the word "Foxpro"
From: "mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com" mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 3:22 AM Subject: Re: What would you do?
On 2017-12-17 14:13, Alan Bourke wrote:
has to be at least as secure as Foxpro
Well, that part will be easy.
LMAO!!!!! I have to admit I chuckled when I saw that too.
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Another consideration:
Frank.
Frank Cazabon
On 16/12/2017 08:26 AM, Michael Madigan wrote:
A client may be forced to convert his legacy foxpro software to something commercial and currently commercially supported by the manufacturer. My client would prefer to keep it as is, but the decision may be out of his hands. Open source is probably out too. There is no software currently on the market that will do what he does the way he does it. What would you do? The system is relatively simple, has to support 100 simultaneous users, has to be at least as secure as Foxpro, and run from a internal server. Id love something that works like Foxpro, I.E. a DBMS package with a powerful programming language, and is easy to learn. What would you migrate it to?
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