I have a desktop and a laptop with non-functioning installations of VFP9. I am thinking that I should remove any previous versions before doing a new installation but the recommended method to do so involves having Windows do the uninstal. The Apps list on these machines no longer includes VFP9 so that method is not an option.
I did delete the C:\Program Files(x86\Microsoft Visual Foxpro 9.0 folder
Is it essential to clean up all files and registry entries or will the new installation simply overwrite any entries already there?
Thanks in advance, Joe
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My experience has been fresh installs overwrite the registry settings.
-- Woody just sent this: First try to install the VFP runtime installer from Vfpx.org. This will also install the necessary components from earlier Windows versions, which VFP needs. wOOdy
HTH, Tracy
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Joe Yoder Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2025 1:19 PM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Cleaning out a non-working VFP installation on Windows 10
I have a desktop and a laptop with non-functioning installations of VFP9. I am thinking that I should remove any previous versions before doing a new installation but the recommended method to do so involves having Windows do the uninstal. The Apps list on these machines no longer includes VFP9 so that method is not an option.
I did delete the C:\Program Files(x86\Microsoft Visual Foxpro 9.0 folder
Is it essential to clean up all files and registry entries or will the new installation simply overwrite any entries already there?
Thanks in advance, Joe
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Thanks Tracy & wOOdy for posting that link - Vfpx.org
I had heard about that site a while back, don't remember if I had been to the site before. It's quite interesting indeed - especially as it seems that there's a community of very passionate people that are STILL Passionate about FoxPro!
I have a follow-up question - but, I do NOT want to Hi-Jack this thread - so, gonna start a new one.
-Kurt
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 11:18 AM Tracy Pearson tracy@powerchurch.com wrote:
My experience has been fresh installs overwrite the registry settings.
-- Woody just sent this: First try to install the VFP runtime installer from Vfpx.org. This will also install the necessary components from earlier Windows versions, which VFP needs. wOOdy
HTH, Tracy
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Joe Yoder Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2025 1:19 PM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Cleaning out a non-working VFP installation on Windows 10
I have a desktop and a laptop with non-functioning installations of VFP9. I am thinking that I should remove any previous versions before doing a new installation but the recommended method to do so involves having Windows do the uninstal. The Apps list on these machines no longer includes VFP9 so that method is not an option.
I did delete the C:\Program Files(x86\Microsoft Visual Foxpro 9.0 folder
Is it essential to clean up all files and registry entries or will the new installation simply overwrite any entries already there?
Thanks in advance, Joe
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The vfpx runtime installer sounds like what I need. I went to the vfpx.org site but I don't see anything to download. How do I get the installer?
Thanks in advance, Joe
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 2:33 PM Kurt Wendt kurthwendt@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Tracy & wOOdy for posting that link - Vfpx.org
I had heard about that site a while back, don't remember if I had been to the site before. It's quite interesting indeed - especially as it seems that there's a community of very passionate people that are STILL Passionate about FoxPro!
I have a follow-up question - but, I do NOT want to Hi-Jack this thread - so, gonna start a new one.
-Kurt
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 11:18 AM Tracy Pearson tracy@powerchurch.com wrote:
My experience has been fresh installs overwrite the registry settings.
-- Woody just sent this: First try to install the VFP runtime installer from Vfpx.org. This will also install the necessary components from earlier Windows versions, which VFP needs. wOOdy
HTH, Tracy
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Joe Yoder Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2025 1:19 PM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Cleaning out a non-working VFP installation on Windows 10
I have a desktop and a laptop with non-functioning installations of VFP9. I am thinking that I should remove any previous versions before doing a
new
installation but the recommended method to do so involves having Windows do the uninstal. The Apps list on these machines no longer includes
VFP9
so that method is not an option.
I did delete the C:\Program Files(x86\Microsoft Visual Foxpro 9.0 folder
Is it essential to clean up all files and registry entries or will the
new
installation simply overwrite any entries already there?
Thanks in advance, Joe
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I found the installer (12,537 kb) on another site but when I run it it only installs 6 files. Do I have the wrong installer? Is this only the runtime and not the full development system? What do I need to get to a fully updated system?
Thanks in advance, Joe
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 3:49 PM Joe Yoder joe@wheypower.com wrote:
The vfpx runtime installer sounds like what I need. I went to the vfpx.org site but I don't see anything to download. How do I get the installer?
Thanks in advance, Joe
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 2:33 PM Kurt Wendt kurthwendt@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Tracy & wOOdy for posting that link - Vfpx.org
I had heard about that site a while back, don't remember if I had been to the site before. It's quite interesting indeed - especially as it seems that there's a community of very passionate people that are STILL Passionate about FoxPro!
I have a follow-up question - but, I do NOT want to Hi-Jack this thread - so, gonna start a new one.
-Kurt
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 11:18 AM Tracy Pearson tracy@powerchurch.com wrote:
My experience has been fresh installs overwrite the registry settings.
-- Woody just sent this: First try to install the VFP runtime installer from Vfpx.org. This will also install the necessary components from earlier Windows versions, which
VFP
needs. wOOdy
HTH, Tracy
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Joe Yoder Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2025 1:19 PM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Cleaning out a non-working VFP installation on Windows 10
I have a desktop and a laptop with non-functioning installations of
VFP9.
I am thinking that I should remove any previous versions before doing a
new
installation but the recommended method to do so involves having Windows do the uninstal. The Apps list on these machines no longer includes
VFP9
so that method is not an option.
I did delete the C:\Program Files(x86\Microsoft Visual Foxpro 9.0
folder
Is it essential to clean up all files and registry entries or will the
new
installation simply overwrite any entries already there?
Thanks in advance, Joe
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I think the runtime only really needs one or two files, VFP9R.DLL and maybe a language file?
Eric
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 3:33 PM Joe Yoder joe@wheypower.com wrote:
I found the installer (12,537 kb) on another site but when I run it it only installs 6 files. Do I have the wrong installer? Is this only the runtime and not the full development system? What do I need to get to a fully updated system?
Thanks in advance, Joe
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 3:49 PM Joe Yoder joe@wheypower.com wrote:
The vfpx runtime installer sounds like what I need. I went to the vfpx.org site but I don't see anything to download. How do I get the installer?
Thanks in advance, Joe
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 2:33 PM Kurt Wendt kurthwendt@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Tracy & wOOdy for posting that link - Vfpx.org
I had heard about that site a while back, don't remember if I had been
to
the site before. It's quite interesting indeed - especially as it seems that there's a community of very passionate people that are STILL Passionate about FoxPro!
I have a follow-up question - but, I do NOT want to Hi-Jack this thread
so, gonna start a new one.
-Kurt
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 11:18 AM Tracy Pearson tracy@powerchurch.com wrote:
My experience has been fresh installs overwrite the registry settings.
-- Woody just sent this: First try to install the VFP runtime installer from Vfpx.org. This
will
also install the necessary components from earlier Windows versions, which
VFP
needs. wOOdy
HTH, Tracy
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of
Joe
Yoder Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2025 1:19 PM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Cleaning out a non-working VFP installation on Windows 10
I have a desktop and a laptop with non-functioning installations of
VFP9.
I am thinking that I should remove any previous versions before doing
a
new
installation but the recommended method to do so involves having
Windows
do the uninstal. The Apps list on these machines no longer includes
VFP9
so that method is not an option.
I did delete the C:\Program Files(x86\Microsoft Visual Foxpro 9.0
folder
Is it essential to clean up all files and registry entries or will the
new
installation simply overwrite any entries already there?
Thanks in advance, Joe
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[excessive quoting removed by server]
The runtime installer is the ... runtime installer; fully patched to SP3 with the last official hotfixes, iirc. 😊
Unless you can find an old VFP install CD or an MSDN subscription there's no legitimate way to get a full VFP9 dev environment. Did you happen to back up the Program Files folder hierarchy that you said you deleted? If so, you can probably finagle it.
VFPX moved to github a few years ago
-- rk
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 3:33 PM Joe Yoder mailto:joe@wheypower.com wrote:
I found the installer (12,537 kb) on another site but when I run it it only installs 6 files. Do I have the wrong installer? Is this only the runtime and not the full development system? What do I need to get to a fully updated system?
Thanks in advance, Joe
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 3:49 PM Joe Yoder mailto:joe@wheypower.com wrote:
The vfpx runtime installer sounds like what I need. I went to the vfpx.org site but I don't see anything to download. How do I get the installer?
Thanks in advance, Joe
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 2:33 PM Kurt Wendt mailto:kurthwendt@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Tracy & wOOdy for posting that link - Vfpx.org
I had heard about that site a while back, don't remember if I had been
to
the site before. It's quite interesting indeed - especially as it seems that there's a community of very passionate people that are STILL Passionate about FoxPro!
I have a follow-up question - but, I do NOT want to Hi-Jack this thread
so, gonna start a new one.
-Kurt
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 11:18 AM Tracy Pearson mailto:tracy@powerchurch.com wrote:
My experience has been fresh installs overwrite the registry settings.
-- Woody just sent this: First try to install the VFP runtime installer from Vfpx.org. This
will
also install the necessary components from earlier Windows versions, which
VFP
needs. wOOdy
HTH, Tracy
Hey RK - in regards to your comment of "there's no legitimate way to get a full VFP9 dev environment." - maybe there's a Legit seller on like Ebay or Amazon that has the full legit VFP9 package - with manuals and all. Then it may be possible to purchase a legit full Dev Env install. Just a thought...
A search on Amazon turned up 1 hit - but, it then stated currently not available.
But, on EBay - I did get a bunch of hits - including people selling 3.0 & 5.0 versions of VFP SW.
-K
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 2:18 PM Richard Kaye rkaye@invaluable.com wrote:
The runtime installer is the ... runtime installer; fully patched to SP3 with the last official hotfixes, iirc. 😊
Unless you can find an old VFP install CD or an MSDN subscription there's no legitimate way to get a full VFP9 dev environment. Did you happen to back up the Program Files folder hierarchy that you said you deleted? If so, you can probably finagle it.
VFPX moved to github a few years ago
-- rk
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 3:33 PM Joe Yoder mailto:joe@wheypower.com wrote:
I found the installer (12,537 kb) on another site but when I run it it
only
installs 6 files. Do I have the wrong installer? Is this only the runtime and not the full development system? What do I need to get to a fully updated system?
Thanks in advance, Joe
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 3:49 PM Joe Yoder mailto:joe@wheypower.com
wrote:
The vfpx runtime installer sounds like what I need. I went to the vfpx.org site but I don't see anything to download. How do I get the installer?
Thanks in advance, Joe
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 2:33 PM Kurt Wendt mailto:kurthwendt@gmail.com
wrote:
Thanks Tracy & wOOdy for posting that link - Vfpx.org
I had heard about that site a while back, don't remember if I had been
to
the site before. It's quite interesting indeed - especially as it
seems
that there's a community of very passionate people that are STILL Passionate about FoxPro!
I have a follow-up question - but, I do NOT want to Hi-Jack this
thread
so, gonna start a new one.
-Kurt
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 11:18 AM Tracy Pearson <mailto:
tracy@powerchurch.com>
wrote:
My experience has been fresh installs overwrite the registry
settings.
-- Woody just sent this: First try to install the VFP runtime installer from Vfpx.org. This
will
also install the necessary components from earlier Windows versions,
which
VFP
needs. wOOdy
HTH, Tracy
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There could be “used” copies I guess but I doubt highly there are any unsold virgin (for lack of a better term) copies floating around out there. But can you be sure it’s coming from a legitimate source? Also, I don’t know what the MS license says about transferring not that I think they particularly care. VFP is still dead. 😉
From a practical perspective, if you can get a used copy that's clean you can do what you want.
--
rk
From: ProfoxTech profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Kurt Wendt Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2025 5:38 PM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: Cleaning out a non-working VFP installation on Windows 10
Hey RK - in regards to your comment of "there's no legitimate way to get a full VFP9 dev environment." - maybe there's a Legit seller on like Ebay or Amazon that has the full legit VFP9 package - with manuals and all. Then it may be possible to purchase a legit full Dev Env install. Just a thought...
A search on Amazon turned up 1 hit - but, it then stated currently not available.
But, on EBay - I did get a bunch of hits - including people selling 3.0 & 5.0 versions of VFP SW.
-K
I have a legitimate CD of VFP9 but it is currently not accessible. Previously when I tried to install it on Windows 10 the installation would not proceed for some reason. (I think it was related to the version of Windows.) I hope an ISO version of the installation can install on Windows 10 and ask for a license key from the original CD. Since My CD is hiding somewhere in my office I'm hoping I can retrieve the key from my other laptop that has a working installation. (This one had a working installation of VFP9 when it was upgraded to Windows 10.)
Should I give up on the ISO and copy the installation folder from the working machine. If I do - can I choose a different folder on the destination machine or will that foul up the works? (Woody recommends avoiding the default installation folder.)
Thanks in advance, Joe
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 6:38 PM Richard Kaye rkaye@invaluable.com wrote:
There could be “used” copies I guess but I doubt highly there are any unsold virgin (for lack of a better term) copies floating around out there. But can you be sure it’s coming from a legitimate source? Also, I don’t know what the MS license says about transferring not that I think they particularly care. VFP is still dead. 😉
From a practical perspective, if you can get a used copy that's clean you can do what you want.
--
rk
From: ProfoxTech profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Kurt Wendt Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2025 5:38 PM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: Cleaning out a non-working VFP installation on Windows 10
Hey RK - in regards to your comment of "there's no legitimate way to get a full VFP9 dev environment." - maybe there's a Legit seller on like Ebay or Amazon that has the full legit VFP9 package - with manuals and all. Then it may be possible to purchase a legit full Dev Env install. Just a thought...
A search on Amazon turned up 1 hit - but, it then stated currently not available.
But, on EBay - I did get a bunch of hits - including people selling 3.0 & 5.0 versions of VFP SW.
-K
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The VFP setup.exe requires the C++ 7.x runtime. That is downloadable from MS. Also, if you are one of the few & brave that use Task Pane you also need to install the soap SDK which is included as an msi on the CD.
--
rk
From: ProfoxTech profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Joe Yoder Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2025 8:49 PM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: Cleaning out a non-working VFP installation on Windows 10
I have a legitimate CD of VFP9 but it is currently not accessible. Previously when I tried to install it on Windows 10 the installation would not proceed for some reason. (I think it was related to the version of Windows.) I hope an ISO version of the installation can install on Windows 10 and ask for a license key from the original CD. Since My CD is hiding somewhere in my office I'm hoping I can retrieve the key from my other laptop that has a working installation. (This one had a working installation of VFP9 when it was upgraded to Windows 10.)
Should I give up on the ISO and copy the installation folder from the working machine. If I do - can I choose a different folder on the destination machine or will that foul up the works? (Woody recommends avoiding the default installation folder.)
Thanks in advance, Joe
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 6:38 PM Richard Kaye mailto:rkaye@invaluable.com wrote:
There could be “used” copies I guess but I doubt highly there are any unsold virgin (for lack of a better term) copies floating around out there. But can you be sure it’s coming from a legitimate source? Also, I don’t know what the MS license says about transferring not that I think they particularly care. VFP is still dead. 😉
From a practical perspective, if you can get a used copy that's clean you can do what you want.
--
rk
From: ProfoxTech mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Kurt Wendt Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2025 5:38 PM To: mailto:profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: Cleaning out a non-working VFP installation on Windows 10
Hey RK - in regards to your comment of "there's no legitimate way to get a full VFP9 dev environment." - maybe there's a Legit seller on like Ebay or Amazon that has the full legit VFP9 package - with manuals and all. Then it may be possible to purchase a legit full Dev Env install. Just a thought...
A search on Amazon turned up 1 hit - but, it then stated currently not available.
But, on EBay - I did get a bunch of hits - including people selling 3.0 & 5.0 versions of VFP SW.
-K
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VFP 9's installation program will first install the C++ runtime within the ISO.
On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 11:23 PM Richard Kaye rkaye@invaluable.com wrote:
The VFP setup.exe requires the C++ 7.x runtime. That is downloadable from MS. Also, if you are one of the few & brave that use Task Pane you also need to install the soap SDK which is included as an msi on the CD.
Yeah - I agree. A used copy may be good. Downside - when you buy on the web - how can you truly TRUST who is on the other end of your purchase! It could be a DOG sitting at a keyboard - you created the sales item for your FoxPro stuff you purchase. Cause - it's a Dog-Eat-Dog world out there!!!
-K
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 3:39 PM Richard Kaye rkaye@invaluable.com wrote:
There could be “used” copies I guess but I doubt highly there are any unsold virgin (for lack of a better term) copies floating around out there. But can you be sure it’s coming from a legitimate source? Also, I don’t know what the MS license says about transferring not that I think they particularly care. VFP is still dead. 😉
From a practical perspective, if you can get a used copy that's clean you can do what you want.
--
rk
From: ProfoxTech profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Kurt Wendt Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2025 5:38 PM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: Cleaning out a non-working VFP installation on Windows 10
Hey RK - in regards to your comment of "there's no legitimate way to get a full VFP9 dev environment." - maybe there's a Legit seller on like Ebay or Amazon that has the full legit VFP9 package - with manuals and all. Then it may be possible to purchase a legit full Dev Env install. Just a thought...
A search on Amazon turned up 1 hit - but, it then stated currently not available.
But, on EBay - I did get a bunch of hits - including people selling 3.0 & 5.0 versions of VFP SW.
-K
[excessive quoting removed by server]
Has anyone used any of the FoxPro Extensions in VS Code?
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 4:10 PM Richard Kaye rkaye@invaluable.com wrote:
The runtime installer is the ... runtime installer; fully patched to SP3 with the last official hotfixes, iirc. 😊
Unless you can find an old VFP install CD or an MSDN subscription there's no legitimate way to get a full VFP9 dev environment. Did you happen to back up the Program Files folder hierarchy that you said you deleted? If so, you can probably finagle it.
VFPX moved to github a few years ago
-- rk
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 3:33 PM Joe Yoder mailto:joe@wheypower.com wrote:
I found the installer (12,537 kb) on another site but when I run it it
only
installs 6 files. Do I have the wrong installer? Is this only the runtime and not the full development system? What do I need to get to a fully updated system?
Thanks in advance, Joe
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 3:49 PM Joe Yoder mailto:joe@wheypower.com
wrote:
The vfpx runtime installer sounds like what I need. I went to the vfpx.org site but I don't see anything to download. How do I get the installer?
Thanks in advance, Joe
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 2:33 PM Kurt Wendt mailto:kurthwendt@gmail.com
wrote:
Thanks Tracy & wOOdy for posting that link - Vfpx.org
I had heard about that site a while back, don't remember if I had been
to
the site before. It's quite interesting indeed - especially as it
seems
that there's a community of very passionate people that are STILL Passionate about FoxPro!
I have a follow-up question - but, I do NOT want to Hi-Jack this
thread
so, gonna start a new one.
-Kurt
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 11:18 AM Tracy Pearson <mailto:
tracy@powerchurch.com>
wrote:
My experience has been fresh installs overwrite the registry
settings.
-- Woody just sent this: First try to install the VFP runtime installer from Vfpx.org. This
will
also install the necessary components from earlier Windows versions,
which
VFP
needs. wOOdy
HTH, Tracy
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I use a syntax highlighting extension. Having gone looking for any others. (Hijacking the thread... Bad Steve!)
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rk
From: ProfoxTech profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Stephen Russell Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2025 12:09 PM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: Cleaning out a non-working VFP installation on Windows 10
Has anyone used any of the FoxPro Extensions in VS Code?
:)
I thought one of those extensions would give you all the Foxpro functionality, like the MANY languages you can write in, in the shell of VS Code. It might even allow you to deploy to linux.
I spent my time writing API functionality and sometimes UIs for it.
On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 11:18 AM Richard Kaye rkaye@invaluable.com wrote:
I use a syntax highlighting extension. Having gone looking for any others. (Hijacking the thread... Bad Steve!)
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rk
From: ProfoxTech profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Stephen Russell Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2025 12:09 PM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: Cleaning out a non-working VFP installation on Windows 10
Has anyone used any of the FoxPro Extensions in VS Code?
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I thought one of those extensions would give you all the Foxpro functionality, like the MANY languages you can write in, in the shell of VS Code. It might even allow you to deploy to linux.
If VFP didn't have visual classes with the metadata and code snippets in DBF files, and there was a way of defining the UI declaratively, like for example XAML in WPF, then that would be a runner.
I've often thought a worthwhile project would be to only recreate those DBF files on the fly when the form/report/visual class is edited, but make the code the actual artifact that is kept around. That would have made source control so much better. The way we do it now is backwards.
Eric
On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 2:44 AM Alan Bourke alanpbourke@fastmail.fm wrote:
I thought one of those extensions would give you all the Foxpro functionality, like the MANY languages you can write in, in the shell of
VS
Code. It might even allow you to deploy to linux.
If VFP didn't have visual classes with the metadata and code snippets in DBF files, and there was a way of defining the UI declaratively, like for example XAML in WPF, then that would be a runner.
-- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
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If you use VFP Projects in your dev environment, do yourself a favor and checkout Doug's ProjectExplorer https://github.com/DougHennig/ProjectExplorer. A much better and flexible UI for managing projects, integration with Git, etc. Highly recommended.
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rk
From: ProfoxTech profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Eric Selje Sent: Friday, February 7, 2025 8:47 AM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: VS Code and VFP extensions (RE: Cleaning out a non-working VFP installation on Windows 10)
I've often thought a worthwhile project would be to only recreate those DBF files on the fly when the form/report/visual class is edited, but make the code the actual artifact that is kept around. That would have made source control so much better. The way we do it now is backwards.
Eric
I think the late Matt Slay's dynamic forms project is very similar to what you describe, Alan: https://github.com/mattslay/DynamicForms
On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 2:43 AM Alan Bourke alanpbourke@fastmail.fm wrote:
I thought one of those extensions would give you all the Foxpro functionality, like the MANY languages you can write in, in the shell of
VS
Code. It might even allow you to deploy to linux.
If VFP didn't have visual classes with the metadata and code snippets in DBF files, and there was a way of defining the UI declaratively, like for example XAML in WPF, then that would be a runner.
-- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
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On Fri, 7 Feb 2025, at 3:02 PM, Jeff Roberts wrote:
I think the late Matt Slay's dynamic forms project is very similar to what you describe, Alan: https://github.com/mattslay/DynamicForms
Thanks I had a vague memory there was something like that.
It is kind of funny when I have to do a power app form in SharePoint. It has so many reminders or memories of doing forms in vfp. Defining code to do what you want as the form opens. In SP, I have a list with a column for Plant, that defines which of our 22 locations this transaction applies to. I put in a ticket with M$ to be told that in straight SP, you cannot filter by the user's EntraID/AD details. In a power app form I can read who you are and where you work and filter just your transactions.
This list is filled by events happening on the shop floor from Safety Culture events all the time.
Anywho the power app forms will make a vfp fan feel at home is that I am trying to say. It is linked to the dataset you are working on.
On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 2:44 AM Alan Bourke alanpbourke@fastmail.fm wrote:
I thought one of those extensions would give you all the Foxpro functionality, like the MANY languages you can write in, in the shell of
VS
Code. It might even allow you to deploy to linux.
If VFP didn't have visual classes with the metadata and code snippets in DBF files, and there was a way of defining the UI declaratively, like for example XAML in WPF, then that would be a runner.
-- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
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On Thu, 6 Feb 2025, at 5:09 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:
Has anyone used any of the FoxPro Extensions in VS Code?
Yeah, I occasionally take a notion of using it to edit PRG files and install the syntax highlighter. However the fact that I have to skip back to VFP all the time to edit code that is in visual classes always makes me eventually go back to just using the VFP editor.
True.
There are many modern features lacking in VFP's Project Manager and its editor. I tried VSCode with MattSlay's foxpro extension. I also tried Greg Green's external VFP editors. For both of the above, I keep coming back to VFP's Project Manager and its editors for some reason or other - and it is a hassle.
Currently, I am using Jim Nelson's Finder (installed through Thor).
Ajit
However the fact that I have to skip back to VFP all the time to edit code that is in visual classes always makes me eventually go back to just using the VFP editor.
I agree, Ajit. While there is a lot I like about Foxpro, it can be very frustrating to go back to those tools that haven't been upgraded in a long time. Greg Green's additional tools have great potential, but there is a steep learning curve in getting them to work and use them efficiently. When I work on Foxpro, I often copy large parts of form and visual class code over to PRG files or use a converter to make the entire thing a text file so I can edit in vscode with Matt's syntax extensions. It just feels better to me looking at and navigating large blocks of code in vscode vs. the FoxPro editor.
On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 11:25 PM Ajit Abraham ajitweb@gmail.com wrote:
True.
There are many modern features lacking in VFP's Project Manager and its editor. I tried VSCode with MattSlay's foxpro extension. I also tried Greg Green's external VFP editors. For both of the above, I keep coming back to VFP's Project Manager and its editors for some reason or other - and it is a hassle.
Currently, I am using Jim Nelson's Finder (installed through Thor).
Ajit
However the fact that I have to skip back to VFP all the time to edit
code that is in visual classes always makes me eventually go back to just using the VFP editor.
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+1 Jeff - and with the free github copilot AI, VSCode is an absolute pleasure to work with code! But I need the VFP Project Manager(I use Finder) for its report builder, class maintenance and to build the COM for my Node.js backend.
Its ages since I have created a new VFP form. My development work is now : Frontend : SPA and mobile apps with Quasar . Thanks to Andrew MacNeill for introducing this at FoxFest. Backend : VFP with Nodejs
Ajit
It just feels better to me looking at and navigating large blocks of code in vscode vs. the FoxPro editor.
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I can beam you a MSDN VFP 9 ISO if needed! No product key of course. :)
On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 2:19 AM Joe Yoder joe@wheypower.com wrote:
I have a desktop and a laptop with non-functioning installations of VFP9. I am thinking that I should remove any previous versions before doing a new installation but the recommended method to do so involves having Windows do the uninstal. The Apps list on these machines no longer includes VFP9 so that method is not an option.
Go to https://github.com/VFPX/VFPInstallers There is a link in the document to download the iso file. Follow the instructions in the above link to update VFP to the latest version - 09.00.0000.7423 Install it with your key (or google it)
Check our wOOdy's blog post here https://woody-prolib.blogspot.com/2018/12/how-to.html and see this video by Rick Shummer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoZZuw3ggM8 to see on how to copy this installation to a new machine without having to go through the above hassles !
I have never 'installed' VFP9 for the past many years - just 'copied'.
Long Live Foxpro :)
Ajit
I compared your VFP 9 ISO against mine, they are THE SAME!! Yeah!! :)
C:\Downloads>comp en_visual_foxpro_9.0.iso vfp9.iso Comparing en_visual_foxpro_9.0.iso and vfp9.iso... Files compare OK
Compare more files (Y/N) ? n
C:\Downloads>dir Volume in drive C is AGI.Win10 Volume Serial Number is 3274-228A
Directory of C:\Downloads
06/02/2025 09:28 pm <DIR> . 06/02/2025 09:28 pm <DIR> .. 18/10/2014 10:28 pm 310,644,736 en_visual_foxpro_9.0.iso 06/02/2025 09:04 pm 310,644,736 vfp9.iso 2 File(s) 621,289,472 bytes
On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 4:54 PM Ajit Abraham ajitweb@gmail.com wrote:
Go to https://github.com/VFPX/VFPInstallers There is a link in the document to download the iso file.