Not Fox, but kinda Fox.
Google has started complaining about some of the older pages on my web site, which are *ancient* (1997, 98, 99) converted PPT files which MS Office helpfully converted into "state of the art" web pages that Google has decided it can no longer parse, and throws what they call "soft 404" pages: framed web pages that internally redirect, or non-standard HTML it will no longer parse.
So, I'd like to open these files up and re-publish them, as a historical archive, not necessarily of any great value. The slides are pretty much curt outlines, where the questions are presented, but the answers were usually at the talk, and hopefully in the associated white paper. So, yeah, mixed feelings. Folks who saw the presentations might grin at seeing the old retro slides with funky themes.
I would like to: -- publish the stuff on my website, so don't bother recommending Slideshare. -- preserve the graphical presentation, ideally in a responsive format (big on big screens, small on small screens) with simple (cursor keys?) and accessible navigation. -- offer a simple alternative view as text outline, likely one not-that-long page. -- valid HTML/CSS/JS of course.
Here's an example: my 1998 presentation on HTML Help was converted by "Internet Assistant for Microsoft PowerPoint 97"
view-source:http://www.tedroche.com/Present/1998/Dev-14/sld013.htm
and makes pretty atrocious HTML (hey, it was 20 years ago, I did too!)
the "main page" is http://www.tedroche.com/Present/1998/HTMLHelp.htm but that redirects to
http://www.tedroche.com/Present/1998/HTMLHelp_files/error.htm
with the laughably arrogant error message,
"This presentation contains content that your browser may not be able to show properly. This presentation was optimized for more recent versions of Microsoft Internet Explorer.
If you would like to proceed anyway, click here."
Considering this was generated with PowerPoint 97 and I'm looking at it in Google Chromium 46, you gotta chuckle.
I thought I could do this in LibreOffice, as it has a nice Web export wizard, but I'm getting a bizarre I/O error exporting media. I'll try to debug that Python wizard in parallel, but would welcome suggestions if anyone else has tried to do something like this.
Can you open a copy of the original file in a more modern version of PP? that might be all that Google is pitching a fit over.
YMMV.
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 9:29 AM, Ted Roche tedroche@gmail.com wrote:
Not Fox, but kinda Fox.
Google has started complaining about some of the older pages on my web site, which are *ancient* (1997, 98, 99) converted PPT files which MS Office helpfully converted into "state of the art" web pages that Google has decided it can no longer parse, and throws what they call "soft 404" pages: framed web pages that internally redirect, or non-standard HTML it will no longer parse.
So, I'd like to open these files up and re-publish them, as a historical archive, not necessarily of any great value. The slides are pretty much curt outlines, where the questions are presented, but the answers were usually at the talk, and hopefully in the associated white paper. So, yeah, mixed feelings. Folks who saw the presentations might grin at seeing the old retro slides with funky themes.
I would like to: -- publish the stuff on my website, so don't bother recommending Slideshare. -- preserve the graphical presentation, ideally in a responsive format (big on big screens, small on small screens) with simple (cursor keys?) and accessible navigation. -- offer a simple alternative view as text outline, likely one not-that-long page. -- valid HTML/CSS/JS of course.
Here's an example: my 1998 presentation on HTML Help was converted by "Internet Assistant for Microsoft PowerPoint 97"
view-source:http://www.tedroche.com/Present/1998/Dev-14/sld013.htm
and makes pretty atrocious HTML (hey, it was 20 years ago, I did too!)
the "main page" is http://www.tedroche.com/Present/1998/HTMLHelp.htm but that redirects to
http://www.tedroche.com/Present/1998/HTMLHelp_files/error.htm
with the laughably arrogant error message,
"This presentation contains content that your browser may not be able to show properly. This presentation was optimized for more recent versions of Microsoft Internet Explorer.
If you would like to proceed anyway, click here."
Considering this was generated with PowerPoint 97 and I'm looking at it in Google Chromium 46, you gotta chuckle.
I thought I could do this in LibreOffice, as it has a nice Web export wizard, but I'm getting a bizarre I/O error exporting media. I'll try to debug that Python wizard in parallel, but would welcome suggestions if anyone else has tried to do something like this.
-- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com
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Hi Ted,
Some ideas:
1. Convert your original PPT's to PDF's and post those PDF's. Many people prefer to consume presentations via PDF so they can save the work locally and read offline, print and/or search the content vs being forced to page through an interactive web site. Count me as one of these ornery individuals.
2. Convert your original PPT's to PDF's, then use a utility or online service to slice your pages (slides) to a collection of standalone images that you present via s standard image carousel interface.
3. Convert your original PPT's to PDF's, then use an online PDF-to-PowerPoint converter to convert back PowerPoint?
Malcolm
One vote for PDF, noted.
I don't object to multiple formats, I think that's fine. In later posts, I mixed HTML with PDF and downloadable OpenOffice docs.
I'm just trying to avoid the slippery slope of turning the whole project into a document manangement system and scrapbook, with souvenirs from each conferences, nametags, schedules, links to the Fox wiki entry and other people's pictures, etc. Saving that for a retirement project :)
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Malcolm Greene profox@bdurham.com wrote:
Hi Ted,
Some ideas:
- Convert your original PPT's to PDF's and post those PDF's. Many
people prefer to consume presentations via PDF so they can save the work locally and read offline, print and/or search the content vs being forced to page through an interactive web site. Count me as one of these ornery individuals.
- Convert your original PPT's to PDF's, then use a utility or online
service to slice your pages (slides) to a collection of standalone images that you present via s standard image carousel interface.
- Convert your original PPT's to PDF's, then use an online
PDF-to-PowerPoint converter to convert back PowerPoint?
Malcolm
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On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Stephen Russell srussell705@gmail.com wrote:
Can you open a copy of the original file in a more modern version of PP? that might be all that Google is pitching a fit over.
YMMV.
I'm sure a more modern version would make better code, though likely loaded down with a bunch of MS-specific stuff. I'll give it a shot and let you know what I get.
Ted, All I get after the redirect is a black screen both on Firefox and Google Chrome and Internet Explorer 11 just refuses to connect at all!
That's progress folks!
Dave
-----Original Message----- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: 25 February 2016 15:29 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] Best format(s) to publish old PPT slides to the web
Not Fox, but kinda Fox.
Google has started complaining about some of the older pages on my web site, which are *ancient* (1997, 98, 99) converted PPT files which MS Office helpfully converted into "state of the art" web pages that Google has decided it can no longer parse, and throws what they call "soft 404" pages: framed web pages that internally redirect, or non-standard HTML it will no longer parse.
So, I'd like to open these files up and re-publish them, as a historical archive, not necessarily of any great value. The slides are pretty much curt outlines, where the questions are presented, but the answers were usually at the talk, and hopefully in the associated white paper. So, yeah, mixed feelings. Folks who saw the presentations might grin at seeing the old retro slides with funky themes.
I would like to: -- publish the stuff on my website, so don't bother recommending Slideshare. -- preserve the graphical presentation, ideally in a responsive format (big on big screens, small on small screens) with simple (cursor keys?) and accessible navigation. -- offer a simple alternative view as text outline, likely one not-that-long page. -- valid HTML/CSS/JS of course.
Here's an example: my 1998 presentation on HTML Help was converted by "Internet Assistant for Microsoft PowerPoint 97"
view-source:http://www.tedroche.com/Present/1998/Dev-14/sld013.htm
and makes pretty atrocious HTML (hey, it was 20 years ago, I did too!)
the "main page" is http://www.tedroche.com/Present/1998/HTMLHelp.htm but that redirects to
http://www.tedroche.com/Present/1998/HTMLHelp_files/error.htm
with the laughably arrogant error message,
"This presentation contains content that your browser may not be able to show properly. This presentation was optimized for more recent versions of Microsoft Internet Explorer.
If you would like to proceed anyway, click here."
Considering this was generated with PowerPoint 97 and I'm looking at it in Google Chromium 46, you gotta chuckle.
I thought I could do this in LibreOffice, as it has a nice Web export wizard, but I'm getting a bizarre I/O error exporting media. I'll try to debug that Python wizard in parallel, but would welcome suggestions if anyone else has tried to do something like this.
-- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com
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On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Dave Crozier DaveC@flexipol.co.uk wrote:
All I get after the redirect is a black screen both on Firefox and Google Chrome and Internet Explorer 11 just refuses to connect at all!
That's progress folks!
The main HTML page has a JavaScript parser that tries to read the version of the browser and dumps most people into an error message at this point, with a "window.location" call to redirect the page.
Yes, there's a tremendous problem with online bitrot. My blog, dating back to 2003, finds a couple borken links each day. Formats once common become harder and harder to read with any fidelity. Aiming for bog-standard images and HTML for maximum compatibility.
Sorry if this has been mentioned but the newer versions of PowerPoint make it pretty easy to convert a PowerPoint to a video that can be uploaded to YouTube. You can then embed the YouTube video in your web site.
-----Original Message----- From: Dave Crozier [mailto:DaveC@Flexipol.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:22 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] Best format(s) to publish old PPT slides to the web
Ted, All I get after the redirect is a black screen both on Firefox and Google Chrome and Internet Explorer 11 just refuses to connect at all!
That's progress folks!
Dave
-----Original Message----- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: 25 February 2016 15:29 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] Best format(s) to publish old PPT slides to the web
Not Fox, but kinda Fox.
Google has started complaining about some of the older pages on my web site, which are *ancient* (1997, 98, 99) converted PPT files which MS Office helpfully converted into "state of the art" web pages that Google has decided it can no longer parse, and throws what they call "soft 404" pages: framed web pages that internally redirect, or non-standard HTML it will no longer parse.
So, I'd like to open these files up and re-publish them, as a historical archive, not necessarily of any great value. The slides are pretty much curt outlines, where the questions are presented, but the answers were usually at the talk, and hopefully in the associated white paper. So, yeah, mixed feelings. Folks who saw the presentations might grin at seeing the old retro slides with funky themes.
I would like to: -- publish the stuff on my website, so don't bother recommending Slideshare. -- preserve the graphical presentation, ideally in a responsive format (big on big screens, small on small screens) with simple (cursor keys?) and accessible navigation. -- offer a simple alternative view as text outline, likely one not-that-long page. -- valid HTML/CSS/JS of course.
Here's an example: my 1998 presentation on HTML Help was converted by "Internet Assistant for Microsoft PowerPoint 97"
view-source:http://www.tedroche.com/Present/1998/Dev-14/sld013.htm
and makes pretty atrocious HTML (hey, it was 20 years ago, I did too!)
the "main page" is http://www.tedroche.com/Present/1998/HTMLHelp.htm but that redirects to
http://www.tedroche.com/Present/1998/HTMLHelp_files/error.htm
with the laughably arrogant error message,
"This presentation contains content that your browser may not be able to show properly. This presentation was optimized for more recent versions of Microsoft Internet Explorer.
If you would like to proceed anyway, click here."
Considering this was generated with PowerPoint 97 and I'm looking at it in Google Chromium 46, you gotta chuckle.
I thought I could do this in LibreOffice, as it has a nice Web export wizard, but I'm getting a bizarre I/O error exporting media. I'll try to debug that Python wizard in parallel, but would welcome suggestions if anyone else has tried to do something like this.
-- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com
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Except that it makes enormous files and also sometimes locks up for no reason. It's good, but a long way from great.
-----Original Message----- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Matt Wiedeman Sent: Friday, 26 February 2016 10:44 AM To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Best format(s) to publish old PPT slides to the web
Sorry if this has been mentioned but the newer versions of PowerPoint make it pretty easy to convert a PowerPoint to a video that can be uploaded to YouTube. You can then embed the YouTube video in your web site.
-----Original Message----- From: Dave Crozier [mailto:DaveC@Flexipol.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:22 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] Best format(s) to publish old PPT slides to the web
Ted, All I get after the redirect is a black screen both on Firefox and Google Chrome and Internet Explorer 11 just refuses to connect at all!
That's progress folks!
Dave
-----Original Message----- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: 25 February 2016 15:29 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] Best format(s) to publish old PPT slides to the web
Not Fox, but kinda Fox.
Google has started complaining about some of the older pages on my web site, which are *ancient* (1997, 98, 99) converted PPT files which MS Office helpfully converted into "state of the art" web pages that Google has decided it can no longer parse, and throws what they call "soft 404" pages: framed web pages that internally redirect, or non-standard HTML it will no longer parse.
So, I'd like to open these files up and re-publish them, as a historical archive, not necessarily of any great value. The slides are pretty much curt outlines, where the questions are presented, but the answers were usually at the talk, and hopefully in the associated white paper. So, yeah, mixed feelings. Folks who saw the presentations might grin at seeing the old retro slides with funky themes.
I would like to: -- publish the stuff on my website, so don't bother recommending Slideshare. -- preserve the graphical presentation, ideally in a responsive format (big on big screens, small on small screens) with simple (cursor keys?) and accessible navigation. -- offer a simple alternative view as text outline, likely one not-that-long page. -- valid HTML/CSS/JS of course.
Here's an example: my 1998 presentation on HTML Help was converted by "Internet Assistant for Microsoft PowerPoint 97"
view-source:http://www.tedroche.com/Present/1998/Dev-14/sld013.htm
and makes pretty atrocious HTML (hey, it was 20 years ago, I did too!)
the "main page" is http://www.tedroche.com/Present/1998/HTMLHelp.htm but that redirects to
http://www.tedroche.com/Present/1998/HTMLHelp_files/error.htm
with the laughably arrogant error message,
"This presentation contains content that your browser may not be able to show properly. This presentation was optimized for more recent versions of Microsoft Internet Explorer.
If you would like to proceed anyway, click here."
Considering this was generated with PowerPoint 97 and I'm looking at it in Google Chromium 46, you gotta chuckle.
I thought I could do this in LibreOffice, as it has a nice Web export wizard, but I'm getting a bizarre I/O error exporting media. I'll try to debug that Python wizard in parallel, but would welcome suggestions if anyone else has tried to do something like this.
-- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com
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Good to know if I was creating an animated presentation with sound and/or media files. This stuff is mostly static slides, a dozen to 40ish slides as images.
PDF might be the best format, since readers are fairly good at responsive scaling themselves.
Thanks for the info, though.
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Matt Wiedeman Matt.Wiedeman@nahealth.com wrote:
Sorry if this has been mentioned but the newer versions of PowerPoint make it pretty easy to convert a PowerPoint to a video that can be uploaded to YouTube. You can then embed the YouTube video in your web site.
-----Original Message----- From: Dave Crozier [mailto:DaveC@Flexipol.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:22 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] Best format(s) to publish old PPT slides to the web
Ted, All I get after the redirect is a black screen both on Firefox and Google Chrome and Internet Explorer 11 just refuses to connect at all!
That's progress folks!
Dave
-----Original Message----- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: 25 February 2016 15:29 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] Best format(s) to publish old PPT slides to the web
Not Fox, but kinda Fox.
Google has started complaining about some of the older pages on my web site, which are *ancient* (1997, 98, 99) converted PPT files which MS Office helpfully converted into "state of the art" web pages that Google has decided it can no longer parse, and throws what they call "soft 404" pages: framed web pages that internally redirect, or non-standard HTML it will no longer parse.
So, I'd like to open these files up and re-publish them, as a historical archive, not necessarily of any great value. The slides are pretty much curt outlines, where the questions are presented, but the answers were usually at the talk, and hopefully in the associated white paper. So, yeah, mixed feelings. Folks who saw the presentations might grin at seeing the old retro slides with funky themes.
I would like to: -- publish the stuff on my website, so don't bother recommending Slideshare. -- preserve the graphical presentation, ideally in a responsive format (big on big screens, small on small screens) with simple (cursor keys?) and accessible navigation. -- offer a simple alternative view as text outline, likely one not-that-long page. -- valid HTML/CSS/JS of course.
Here's an example: my 1998 presentation on HTML Help was converted by "Internet Assistant for Microsoft PowerPoint 97"
view-source:http://www.tedroche.com/Present/1998/Dev-14/sld013.htm
and makes pretty atrocious HTML (hey, it was 20 years ago, I did too!)
the "main page" is http://www.tedroche.com/Present/1998/HTMLHelp.htm but that redirects to
http://www.tedroche.com/Present/1998/HTMLHelp_files/error.htm
with the laughably arrogant error message,
"This presentation contains content that your browser may not be able to show properly. This presentation was optimized for more recent versions of Microsoft Internet Explorer.
If you would like to proceed anyway, click here."
Considering this was generated with PowerPoint 97 and I'm looking at it in Google Chromium 46, you gotta chuckle.
I thought I could do this in LibreOffice, as it has a nice Web export wizard, but I'm getting a bizarre I/O error exporting media. I'll try to debug that Python wizard in parallel, but would welcome suggestions if anyone else has tried to do something like this.
-- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com
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You could just do it in Visme (http://www.visme.co) note .co not .com
On 2016-02-26 09:28, Alan Bourke wrote:
You could just do it in Visme (http://www.visme.co) note .co not .com
This looks pretty cool! Someone should tell them that this link of theirs doesn't work though: https://visme.co/ Details: The webpage at https://visme.co/ might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.
but if you change it to http: instead of https: , it works.
Mike - I'm confused! Alan gave the link w/o the 's' in the 'http'. And, it's not the site needs to be Secure - thus why it's not https. Do you have some kind of browser settings that's automatically changing http to https?
Regards, Kurt Wendt Consultant
Tel. +1-212-747-9100 www.GlobeTax.com
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 10:37 AM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Best format(s) to publish old PPT slides to the web
On 2016-02-26 09:28, Alan Bourke wrote:
You could just do it in Visme (http://www.visme.co) note .co not .com
This looks pretty cool! Someone should tell them that this link of theirs doesn't work though: https://visme.co/ Details: The webpage at https://visme.co/ might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.
but if you change it to http: instead of https: , it works.
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No, I went and looked at some examples and at the bottom of one of them was a link back that had the dead link.
On 2016-02-26 11:05, Kurt Wendt wrote:
Mike - I'm confused! Alan gave the link w/o the 's' in the 'http'. And, it's not the site needs to be Secure - thus why it's not https. Do you have some kind of browser settings that's automatically changing http to https?
Regards, Kurt Wendt Consultant
Tel. +1-212-747-9100 www.GlobeTax.com
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 10:37 AM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Best format(s) to publish old PPT slides to the web
On 2016-02-26 09:28, Alan Bourke wrote:
You could just do it in Visme (http://www.visme.co) note .co not .com
This looks pretty cool! Someone should tell them that this link of theirs doesn't work though: https://visme.co/ Details: The webpage at https://visme.co/ might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.
but if you change it to http: instead of https: , it works.
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