That means bash etc
I'm *quite* sure this isn't an April Fool ...
https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-userspac...
-- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
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On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Alan Bourke alanpbourke@fastmail.fm wrote:
That means bash etc
I'm *quite* sure this isn't an April Fool ...
https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-userspac...
Anybody have some good insight as to why MS probably paid Canonical a bunch of money to port all the console tools to Windows? Was the PowerShell/DotNetCLI not up to the task?
Will we have to start calling in GNU/Windows?
Windows.GNU may be in line?
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 8:27 AM, Ted Roche tedroche@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Alan Bourke alanpbourke@fastmail.fm wrote:
That means bash etc
I'm *quite* sure this isn't an April Fool ...
https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-userspac...
Anybody have some good insight as to why MS probably paid Canonical a bunch of money to port all the console tools to Windows? Was the PowerShell/DotNetCLI not up to the task?
Will we have to start calling in GNU/Windows?
-- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com
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Just saw this as well. http://www.zdnet.com/article/heres-how-microsoft-will-support-bash-on-window...
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Stephen Russell srussell705@gmail.com wrote:
Windows.GNU may be in line?
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 8:27 AM, Ted Roche tedroche@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Alan Bourke alanpbourke@fastmail.fm wrote:
That means bash etc
I'm *quite* sure this isn't an April Fool ...
https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-userspac...
Anybody have some good insight as to why MS probably paid Canonical a bunch of money to port all the console tools to Windows? Was the PowerShell/DotNetCLI not up to the task?
Will we have to start calling in GNU/Windows?
-- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com
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On 31/03/2016 18:57, Ted Roche wrote:
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Alan Bourke alanpbourke@fastmail.fm wrote:
That means bash etc
I'm *quite* sure this isn't an April Fool ...
https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-userspac...
Anybody have some good insight as to why MS probably paid Canonical a bunch of money to port all the console tools to Windows? Was the PowerShell/DotNetCLI not up to the task?
Will we have to start calling in GNU/Windows?
My cynical side thinks that far too many people saw the change to Win10 as a leap too far, and if they had to handle that much change they might as well go for Ubuntu/ Mint, this would allow these people to put a foot into that camp while remaining firmly tied to ms' apron strings. My whimsical side remembers a PC User Group meeting in London around 1985: a senior honcho from ms UK said that the next version of msDos would be binary compatible with Unix..... at a meeting a couple of months later this was completely pooh-poohed. They handed out free copies of Windows 1.0 - on a good commercial PC the windows part was so slow as to be unusable (the underlying was still Dos). My realistic side sees this as a possible alternative to my Win10/Mint dual booter.
(The tricky bit may be threads/ processes).
There were a few tweets about this from Build 2016 yesterday.
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 8:04 AM, Alan Bourke alanpbourke@fastmail.fm wrote:
That means bash etc
I'm *quite* sure this isn't an April Fool ...
https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-userspac...
-- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
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It's technically incredible this goal, but I'll prefer to keep using my Ubuntu with Linux.
Don't want Windows spying on all I do. El 31/3/2016 15:04, "Alan Bourke" alanpbourke@fastmail.fm escribió:
That means bash etc
I'm *quite* sure this isn't an April Fool ...
https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-userspac...
-- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
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On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Fernando D. Bozzo fdbozzo@gmail.com wrote:
It's technically incredible this goal, but I'll prefer to keep using my Ubuntu with Linux.
I'm not so sure. I've been running Linux console-based tools using Cygnus for 15 years now.
That they got the proprietary MS C (or C++ or DotNet) compiler to succcessfully compile GCC code is a lot of work, but for all practical purposes, no forward progress.
Now, if they ported the user security model, the executive and the GUI subsystems to Windows, well, then they might have a decent distro!
Correction, not Cygnus (a long dead and missed text editor) but Cygwin:
Mr. Kirkland also cross-posts here:
http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/03/ubuntu-on-windows.html
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Ted Roche tedroche@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Fernando D. Bozzo fdbozzo@gmail.com wrote:
It's technically incredible this goal, but I'll prefer to keep using my Ubuntu with Linux.
I'm not so sure. I've been running Linux console-based tools using Cygnus for 15 years now.
That they got the proprietary MS C (or C++ or DotNet) compiler to succcessfully compile GCC code is a lot of work, but for all practical purposes, no forward progress.
Now, if they ported the user security model, the executive and the GUI subsystems to Windows, well, then they might have a decent distro!
-- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com
On Thu, 31 Mar 2016, at 02:47 PM, Ted Roche wrote:
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Fernando D. Bozzo fdbozzo@gmail.com
That they got the proprietary MS C (or C++ or DotNet) compiler
Open source and on GitHub for C# and VB.Net compiler as of VS 2015.
Well, I, for one, will welcome a GitHub for Windows interface that can use native git commands. I've helped other developers install GitHub for Windows, and essentially you need to install the entire MSys Linux emulator for Windows in order to get ssh, key generation, and git. It's clumbsy and difficult. Now, the installation is fixed, and perhaps some of the other aspects can be smoothed.
It would also be great if they could build a version of Ruby that actually works the way the rest of them (Ruby on Linux, Ruby on OS X, Ruby on BSD, Ruby on Heroku, Ruby on Amazon, pretty much "Ruby on Anything"). The author of "Command Line Applications in Ruby" bemoaned that it was impossible to even get his basic examples running on Windows, because Windows Is Not Unix.
I understand the demo was done with the original Windows console. I can't believe they are not bringing out a new console along with bash.
(For windows users who've just been using what came with Windows and find this a bit confusing, the shell, like bash, is like a command interpreter, COMMAND.COM or CMD.EXE, while the console is the window ornamentation and all the features of how the window interacts with the OS. In Windows, you paste into the console with Alt-Spacebar, E, P and are often restricted to a fixed console size, like 25x80. Replacement window consoles have been available for a long time now and are a lot more fun to work with.)
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Alan Bourke alanpbourke@fastmail.fm wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2016, at 02:47 PM, Ted Roche wrote:
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Fernando D. Bozzo fdbozzo@gmail.com
That they got the proprietary MS C (or C++ or DotNet) compiler
Open source and on GitHub for C# and VB.Net compiler as of VS 2015.
-- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2016, at 04:43 PM, Ted Roche wrote:
Well, I, for one, will welcome a GitHub for Windows interface that can use native git commands. I've helped other developers install GitHub for Windows, and essentially you need to install the entire MSys Linux emulator for Windows in order to get ssh, key generation, and git. It's clumbsy and difficult. Now, the installation is fixed, and perhaps some of the other aspects can be smoothed.
Yep, it integrates fairly well with the Visual Studio team functionality now, but of course that is within the VS IDE. SourceTree on Windows is very good too, and you can do Git command line stuff from within that.
I understand the demo was done with the original Windows console. I can't believe they are not bringing out a new console along with bash.
Amen to that. The Windows 8 one is better in terms of allowing transparency and proper cut & paste but it's still nowhere near the richness of *nix consoles.
On 31 March 2016 at 14:37, Fernando D. Bozzo fdbozzo@gmail.com wrote:
It's technically incredible this goal, but I'll prefer to keep using my Ubuntu with Linux.
Don't want Windows spying on all I do.
Then you should not be using Ubuntu!
Why? I haven't external searching features active (Amazon, etc) El 31/3/2016 16:47, "Paul Hill" paulroberthill@gmail.com escribió:
On 31 March 2016 at 14:37, Fernando D. Bozzo fdbozzo@gmail.com wrote:
It's technically incredible this goal, but I'll prefer to keep using my Ubuntu with Linux.
Don't want Windows spying on all I do.
Then you should not be using Ubuntu!
-- Paul
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On 31 March 2016 at 15:53, Fernando D. Bozzo fdbozzo@gmail.com wrote:
On 31 March 2016 at 14:37, Fernando D. Bozzo fdbozzo@gmail.com wrote:
It's technically incredible this goal, but I'll prefer to keep using my Ubuntu with Linux.
Don't want Windows spying on all I do.
Then you should not be using Ubuntu!
Why? I haven't external searching features active (Amazon, etc)
Because it's there by default. Just like Windows. I stick to Debian. Ubuntu is 99% Debian anyway.
The next LTS release of Ubuntu has the internet searching defaulted to off, apparently.
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