Guys, Please ignore this test... just seeing if our migration to Office 365 has worked correctly..
Thanks Dave
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On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 8:36 AM, Dave Crozier DCrozier@flexipol.co.uk wrote:
Guys, Please ignore this test... just seeing if our migration to Office 365 has worked correctly..
Thanks Dave
I'm pretty sure I ignored this a couple of days ago. How many times should we ignore it <g>?
No need Ted, All working as it should now.... this particular message must have been stuck in Ed's "let's look at this.." queue as I think it was sent HTML formatted as opposed to plain text, hence why I sent it again.
Dave Crozier Software Development Manager Flexipol Packaging Ltd.
-----Original Message----- From: ProFox profox-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: 03 August 2018 15:24 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: Test Email
On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 8:36 AM, Dave Crozier DCrozier@flexipol.co.uk wrote:
Guys, Please ignore this test... just seeing if our migration to Office 365 has worked correctly..
Thanks Dave
I'm pretty sure I ignored this a couple of days ago. How many times should we ignore it <g>?
-- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com
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On Aug 3, 2018, at 10:08 AM, Dave Crozier DCrozier@Flexipol.co.uk wrote:
No need Ted, All working as it should now.... this particular message must have been stuck in Ed's "let's look at this.." queue as I think it was sent HTML formatted as opposed to plain text, hence why I sent it again.
It was held because apparently you were not a subscriber for a period, and posts from non-subscribers are held until I get around to reviewing them.
-- Ed Leafe
On 08/03/18 11:20 AM, Ed Leafe wrote:
It was held because apparently you were not a subscriber for a period, and posts from non-subscribers are held until I get around to reviewing them.
Yeah, about that. Ever since I switched mailboxes for Profox, I've been a non-subscriber, and have to wait for you to vet my brilliant, sometimes heart-breakingly beautiful replies.
What did I screw up, and how do I fix it?
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Re-register!!!
Dave Crozier Software Development Manager Flexipol Packaging Ltd.
-----Original Message----- From: ProFox profox-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Vince Teachout Sent: 03 August 2018 16:40 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com; Ed Leafe ed@leafe.com Subject: Re: Test Email
On 08/03/18 11:20 AM, Ed Leafe wrote:
It was held because apparently you were not a subscriber for a period, and posts from non-subscribers are held until I get around to reviewing them.
Yeah, about that. Ever since I switched mailboxes for Profox, I've been a non-subscriber, and have to wait for you to vet my brilliant, sometimes heart-breakingly beautiful replies.
What did I screw up, and how do I fix it?
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On 08/08/18 10:13 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:
Re-register!!!
No, the problem turned out to be a code ID-10T: PEBCAK. :-)
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test passed
Op wo 8 aug. 2018 om 15:20 schreef Vince Teachout teachv@taconic.net:
On 08/03/18 11:20 AM, Ed Leafe wrote:
It was held because apparently you were not a subscriber for a period,
and posts from non-subscribers are held until I get around to reviewing them.
Yeah, about that. Ever since I switched mailboxes for Profox, I've been a non-subscriber, and have to wait for you to vet my brilliant, sometimes heart-breakingly beautiful replies.
What did I screw up, and how do I fix it?
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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So, Dave's Office365 test for text & html submissions is working perfectly!
And, Ed's unscheduled test for the hold procedure for non-subscribers is working perfectly!
ALL TESTS SUCCESSFUL! ALL SYSTEMS GO!
Ted will be running the performance analysis on Ed & Dave's work this afternoon and then we can jump straight to production!
WOOHOO! :)
PS: it's Friday. Can you tell?
Paul
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 10:20 AM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: Test Email
On Aug 3, 2018, at 10:08 AM, Dave Crozier DCrozier@Flexipol.co.uk wrote:
No need Ted, All working as it should now.... this particular message must
have been stuck in Ed's "let's look at this.." queue as I think it was sent HTML formatted as opposed to plain text, hence why I sent it again.
It was held because apparently you were not a subscriber for a period, and posts from non-subscribers are held until I get around to reviewing them.
-- Ed Leafe
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On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Paul H. Tarver paul@tpcqpc.com wrote:
So, Dave's Office365 test for text & html submissions is working perfectly!
And, Ed's unscheduled test for the hold procedure for non-subscribers is working perfectly!
ALL TESTS SUCCESSFUL! ALL SYSTEMS GO!
I'm getting tired of winning.
Hi folks,
I'm in a difficult situation. I have a new customer who has a VFP app that she designed and owns. She then has customers where this was installed. Her previous programmer had provided her with "source code" so she thought it would be no problem hiring me to take over since the previous developer no longer has time to commit to the ongoing development of this software.
I reviewed the "source code" she had to start quote her how much newer changes might cost. In my review of the software, I noticed it is missing: 1) VFP Project Files 2) Menu files (Mnx,Mnt). mpx is there. 3) Some graphic files used. 4) Who knows how many other files are missing? Without the original Project Files, I can't tell what else was used in the project.
When she asked her previous programmer for these missing files, she was told they are probably on an old server that he would have to restart and try to retrieve files from it. He said it would probably be easier just having the new developer (me) decompile the EXE to get the source code.
Question for you: Does ReFox uncompile an EXE into the actual MNX/MNT and Project Files? I'm thinking no. Probably just the MPR, VCX/T, PRG, etc. Also, I remember from long ago that ReFox would not de-compile any programming notes from the previous PRGs etc.
My thought is the previous developer should've provided this to my client since she designed and owns the software. And now, since it is not all there, he should provide it to her. Instead, he wants to charge a hefty bill to start up his old server to retrieve what might be on there and no guarantee that it will all be there.
Thanks for any thoughts,
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On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 1:29 PM, Philip Borkholder plborker@netzero.net wrote:
I'm in a difficult situation.
I'd say your client is in a difficult situation.
A VERY CHEAP solution I've used in the past is to have the client speak to their lawyer (or hire one, they're less expensive than you might think) and have the lawyer write a VERY STERN LETTER to the old programmer informing them on the serious consequences of not providing their former customer with their promised source code in a a workmanlike manner.
At no charge.
Promptly.
In a surprising number of cases, that's enough to resolve the issue.
(I have actually called a similar target and asked whether they wanted the papers served to them or if they could provide me with their attorney's contact info, and they folded on the spot, so...)
Thanks Ted,
I'll pass this recommendation on.
If worst comes to worst, do you have any experience with ReFox? Will it decompile MNX/MNT files?
She's thinking about purchasing ReFox if need be.
Philip
On 8/3/2018 2:13 PM, Ted Roche wrote:
On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 1:29 PM, Philip Borkholder plborker@netzero.net wrote:
I'm in a difficult situation.
I'd say your client is in a difficult situation.
A VERY CHEAP solution I've used in the past is to have the client speak to their lawyer (or hire one, they're less expensive than you might think) and have the lawyer write a VERY STERN LETTER to the old programmer informing them on the serious consequences of not providing their former customer with their promised source code in a a workmanlike manner.
At no charge.
Promptly.
In a surprising number of cases, that's enough to resolve the issue.
(I have actually called a similar target and asked whether they wanted the papers served to them or if they could provide me with their attorney's contact info, and they folded on the spot, so...)
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I totally agree with the attorney route. Often times it is just like Ted said, one letter usually does the trick.
On 8/3/2018 2:52 PM, Philip Borkholder wrote:
Thanks Ted,
I'll pass this recommendation on.
If worst comes to worst, do you have any experience with ReFox? Will it decompile MNX/MNT files?
She's thinking about purchasing ReFox if need be.
Philip
On 8/3/2018 2:13 PM, Ted Roche wrote:
On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 1:29 PM, Philip Borkholder plborker@netzero.net wrote:
I'm in a difficult situation.
I'd say your client is in a difficult situation.
A VERY CHEAP solution I've used in the past is to have the client speak to their lawyer (or hire one, they're less expensive than you might think) and have the lawyer write a VERY STERN LETTER to the old programmer informing them on the serious consequences of not providing their former customer with their promised source code in a a workmanlike manner.
At no charge.
Promptly.
In a surprising number of cases, that's enough to resolve the issue.
(I have actually called a similar target and asked whether they wanted the papers served to them or if they could provide me with their attorney's contact info, and they folded on the spot, so...)
Drink This Before Bed, Watch Your Body Fat Melt Like Crazy Celebrity Local http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/5b64a47bf266b24711721st01vuc
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Yes, as long as the original developer didn't do anything special ReFox will reconstruct the MNX/MNT file.
BTW ReFox is a sponsor at Southwest Fox this year - thanks ReFox!
Eric
On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 2:06 PM, roger tremblay rogtrem@gmail.com wrote:
I totally agree with the attorney route. Often times it is just like Ted said, one letter usually does the trick.
On 8/3/2018 2:52 PM, Philip Borkholder wrote:
Thanks Ted,
I'll pass this recommendation on.
If worst comes to worst, do you have any experience with ReFox? Will it decompile MNX/MNT files?
She's thinking about purchasing ReFox if need be.
Philip
On 8/3/2018 2:13 PM, Ted Roche wrote:
On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 1:29 PM, Philip Borkholder plborker@netzero.net wrote:
I'm in a difficult situation.
I'd say your client is in a difficult situation.
A VERY CHEAP solution I've used in the past is to have the client speak to their lawyer (or hire one, they're less expensive than you might think) and have the lawyer write a VERY STERN LETTER to the old programmer informing them on the serious consequences of not providing their former customer with their promised source code in a a workmanlike manner.
At no charge.
Promptly.
In a surprising number of cases, that's enough to resolve the issue.
(I have actually called a similar target and asked whether they wanted the papers served to them or if they could provide me with their attorney's contact info, and they folded on the spot, so...)
Drink This Before Bed, Watch Your Body Fat Melt Like Crazy Celebrity Local http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/5b64a47bf266b24711721st01vuc
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Thanks Eric,
See you at SW Fox!
-Philip
On 8/3/2018 3:23 PM, Eric Selje wrote:
Yes, as long as the original developer didn't do anything special ReFox will reconstruct the MNX/MNT file.
BTW ReFox is a sponsor at Southwest Fox this year - thanks ReFox!
Eric
On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 2:06 PM, roger tremblay rogtrem@gmail.com wrote:
I totally agree with the attorney route. Often times it is just like Ted said, one letter usually does the trick.
On 8/3/2018 2:52 PM, Philip Borkholder wrote:
Thanks Ted,
I'll pass this recommendation on.
If worst comes to worst, do you have any experience with ReFox? Will it decompile MNX/MNT files?
She's thinking about purchasing ReFox if need be.
Philip
On 8/3/2018 2:13 PM, Ted Roche wrote:
On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 1:29 PM, Philip Borkholder plborker@netzero.net wrote:
I'm in a difficult situation.
I'd say your client is in a difficult situation.
A VERY CHEAP solution I've used in the past is to have the client speak to their lawyer (or hire one, they're less expensive than you might think) and have the lawyer write a VERY STERN LETTER to the old programmer informing them on the serious consequences of not providing their former customer with their promised source code in a a workmanlike manner.
At no charge.
Promptly.
In a surprising number of cases, that's enough to resolve the issue.
(I have actually called a similar target and asked whether they wanted the papers served to them or if they could provide me with their attorney's contact info, and they folded on the spot, so...)
Drink This Before Bed, Watch Your Body Fat Melt Like Crazy Celebrity Local http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/5b64a47bf266b24711721st01vuc
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I'm with TED on this one.
One extra problem trying to decompile the EXE --iin the best case-- is that you always loose the .H files, the formatting and the comments, that sometimes are the ONLY documentation for the system. ...if they didn't use Control Source Software, then probably do not have any docs either, so the code comments can be important too.
Regards.-
2018-08-03 19:29 GMT+02:00 Philip Borkholder plborker@netzero.net:
Hi folks,
I'm in a difficult situation. I have a new customer who has a VFP app that she designed and owns. She then has customers where this was installed. Her previous programmer had provided her with "source code" so she thought it would be no problem hiring me to take over since the previous developer no longer has time to commit to the ongoing development of this software.
I reviewed the "source code" she had to start quote her how much newer changes might cost. In my review of the software, I noticed it is missing:
- VFP Project Files
- Menu files (Mnx,Mnt). mpx is there.
- Some graphic files used.
- Who knows how many other files are missing? Without the original
Project Files, I can't tell what else was used in the project.
When she asked her previous programmer for these missing files, she was told they are probably on an old server that he would have to restart and try to retrieve files from it. He said it would probably be easier just having the new developer (me) decompile the EXE to get the source code.
Question for you: Does ReFox uncompile an EXE into the actual MNX/MNT and Project Files? I'm thinking no. Probably just the MPR, VCX/T, PRG, etc. Also, I remember from long ago that ReFox would not de-compile any programming notes from the previous PRGs etc.
My thought is the previous developer should've provided this to my client since she designed and owns the software. And now, since it is not all there, he should provide it to her. Instead, he wants to charge a hefty bill to start up his old server to retrieve what might be on there and no guarantee that it will all be there.
Thanks for any thoughts,
Philip B Vicksburg, MI ____________________________________________________________ Melissa McCarthy Confirms Unfortunate News track.volutrk.com http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/5b6490fa2747f10ef4a37st02duc
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