Well, I've been talking about it for a couple years now. I think I'm going to buy a laptop this week for some Black Friday deal (hopefully) to get the best savings.
I bought a Surface Pro 3 from a friend last year but I'm used to a Dell Latitude laptop that fits in my docking stations so I'm not taking to the Surface Pro 3 I guess for that reason. Plus I need to wipe his image (it was a buyout from his company) and hence "if I have to spend for that, why not just spend a little more and get a new Dell Latitude."
My question here: I LOVE LOVE LOVE the SSD drives, but of course the 7200 rpm drives are cheaper. Would YOU spend the extra $$$ for the SSD drive (despite it also being smaller in size than the RPM drive)?
In general my experience has been that SSD drives give you a significant performance boost. I replaced the rotational drive in my now 7 year old Macbook Pro a couple of years ago and a lot of my thumb twiddling time went away. Not quite an apples to apples (pun intended) comparison but I think it's money well spent.
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-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 9:59 AM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: [NF] SSD drives vs. 7200 rpm drives
Well, I've been talking about it for a couple years now. I think I'm going to buy a laptop this week for some Black Friday deal (hopefully) to get the best savings.
I bought a Surface Pro 3 from a friend last year but I'm used to a Dell Latitude laptop that fits in my docking stations so I'm not taking to the Surface Pro 3 I guess for that reason. Plus I need to wipe his image (it was a buyout from his company) and hence "if I have to spend for that, why not just spend a little more and get a new Dell Latitude."
My question here: I LOVE LOVE LOVE the SSD drives, but of course the 7200 rpm drives are cheaper. Would YOU spend the extra $$$ for the SSD drive (despite it also being smaller in size than the RPM drive)?
On 2017-11-20 10:02, Richard Kaye wrote:
In general my experience has been that SSD drives give you a significant performance boost. I replaced the rotational drive in my now 7 year old Macbook Pro a couple of years ago and a lot of my thumb twiddling time went away. Not quite an apples to apples (pun intended) comparison but I think it's money well spent.
My other thought was "take the RPM drive savings and upgrade the RAM to 16 GB." ???
I personally use a 256 GB SSD just for fast - loading the OS, but the data on the HDD.
This way you can have the best of the two worlds.
El 20 nov. 2017 15:58, mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com escribió:
Well, I've been talking about it for a couple years now. I think I'm going to buy a laptop this week for some Black Friday deal (hopefully) to get the best savings.
I bought a Surface Pro 3 from a friend last year but I'm used to a Dell Latitude laptop that fits in my docking stations so I'm not taking to the Surface Pro 3 I guess for that reason. Plus I need to wipe his image (it was a buyout from his company) and hence "if I have to spend for that, why not just spend a little more and get a new Dell Latitude."
My question here: I LOVE LOVE LOVE the SSD drives, but of course the 7200 rpm drives are cheaper. Would YOU spend the extra $$$ for the SSD drive (despite it also being smaller in size than the RPM drive)?
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This one:
*MSI GP62 7RE-431XES Leopard Pro Intel Core i7-7700HQ/8GB/1TB/GTX1050Ti/15.6"*
and added a 256GB SSD
El 20 nov. 2017 16:11, mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com escribió:
On 2017-11-20 10:03, Fernando D. Bozzo wrote:
I personally use a 256 GB SSD just for fast - loading the OS, but the data on the HDD.
This way you can have the best of the two worlds.
Is this on a laptop? What make/model do you have?
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Forgot to mention that I'm using it with a Dock station, because y prefer to use a 24" wide monitor with external keyboard and mouse.
By the way, my primary OS is Ubuntu Linux, with Windows 10 dual boot
Love to have the OS loaded in less than 12 secs :-P
El 20 nov. 2017 16:32, "Fernando D. Bozzo" fdbozzo@gmail.com escribió:
This one:
*MSI GP62 7RE-431XES Leopard Pro Intel Core i7-7700HQ/8GB/1TB/GTX1050Ti/15.6"*
and added a 256GB SSD
El 20 nov. 2017 16:11, mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com escribió:
On 2017-11-20 10:03, Fernando D. Bozzo wrote:
I personally use a 256 GB SSD just for fast - loading the OS, but the data on the HDD.
This way you can have the best of the two worlds.
Is this on a laptop? What make/model do you have?
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Who makes that model? Sorry if I missed that.
On 2017-11-20 10:56, Fernando D. Bozzo wrote:
Forgot to mention that I'm using it with a Dock station, because y prefer to use a 24" wide monitor with external keyboard and mouse.
By the way, my primary OS is Ubuntu Linux, with Windows 10 dual boot
Love to have the OS loaded in less than 12 secs :-P
El 20 nov. 2017 16:32, "Fernando D. Bozzo" fdbozzo@gmail.com escribió:
This one:
*MSI GP62 7RE-431XES Leopard Pro Intel Core i7-7700HQ/8GB/1TB/GTX1050Ti/15.6"*
and added a 256GB SSD
El 20 nov. 2017 16:11, mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com escribió:
On 2017-11-20 10:03, Fernando D. Bozzo wrote:
I personally use a 256 GB SSD just for fast - loading the OS, but the data on the HDD.
This way you can have the best of the two worlds.
Is this on a laptop? What make/model do you have?
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You mean who make the MSI Laptop? MicroStar International
Here is the link: https://www.msi.com/Laptop/support/GP62-7RE-Leopard-Pro.html
Mine is a gaming one, with lightning keaybord, very useful at night.
2017-11-20 16:58 GMT+01:00 mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com:
Who makes that model? Sorry if I missed that.
On 2017-11-20 10:56, Fernando D. Bozzo wrote:
Forgot to mention that I'm using it with a Dock station, because y prefer to use a 24" wide monitor with external keyboard and mouse.
By the way, my primary OS is Ubuntu Linux, with Windows 10 dual boot
Love to have the OS loaded in less than 12 secs :-P
El 20 nov. 2017 16:32, "Fernando D. Bozzo" fdbozzo@gmail.com escribió:
This one:
*MSI GP62 7RE-431XES Leopard Pro Intel Core i7-7700HQ/8GB/1TB/GTX1050Ti/15.6"*
and added a 256GB SSD
El 20 nov. 2017 16:11, mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com escribió:
On 2017-11-20 10:03, Fernando D. Bozzo wrote:
I personally use a 256 GB SSD just for fast - loading the OS, but the
data on the HDD.
This way you can have the best of the two worlds.
Is this on a laptop? What make/model do you have?
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I have a Dell Precision 7510 with 16 gig of ram and a 250 gig SSD drive. It is real nice.
The SSD is great for the boot up but in real life not much faster than spinning disk.
Get USB3 port(s) on there as well. No CD-DVD disk needed anymore. HDMI output only for video now a days.
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 9:12 AM, < mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:
On 2017-11-20 10:03, Fernando D. Bozzo wrote:
I personally use a 256 GB SSD just for fast - loading the OS, but the data on the HDD.
This way you can have the best of the two worlds.
Is this on a laptop? What make/model do you have?
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I think most people would go for an SSD boot drive and then a bigger spinning rust drive for the storage, could be difficult in a laptop though.
SSD can be up to 25 times faster in read\write.
On 2017-11-20 10:13, Alan Bourke wrote:
I think most people would go for an SSD boot drive and then a bigger spinning rust drive for the storage, could be difficult in a laptop though.
SSD can be up to 25 times faster in read\write.
I tell all my friends and clients to get SSD if they can. Ironic that I'm posting this question but wanting to get my peer's thoughts on it.
Thanks!
On 2017-11-20 10:13, Alan Bourke wrote:
I think most people would go for an SSD boot drive and then a bigger spinning rust drive for the storage, could be difficult in a laptop though.
SSD can be up to 25 times faster in read\write.
SSDs aren't suggested for SERVER drives, are they? I'm thinking "not" due to much more read/writes perhaps from multi-user apps changing database data.
I think they're increasingly used in RAID configuration in physical servers since their cost/capacity ration has improved dramatically, as has the failure rate.
Hi Mike,
I can't think of a single scenario where I would recommend non-SSD storage for a developer workstation ... unless high performance is giving you motion sickness and you want to intentionally slow down. Or you were my direct competitor.
If you're upgrading your laptop, why not consider a MacBook Pro? The higher price is offset by the extra productivity and quality of life.
Malcolm
On a laptop I went for a 'hybrid' drive - the improvement was clearly noticeable.
On 20-Nov-2017 8:43 PM, Alan Bourke wrote:
I think most people would go for an SSD boot drive and then a bigger spinning rust drive for the storage, could be difficult in a laptop though.
SSD can be up to 25 times faster in read\write.
Always go for the Samsung 850 SSD route. If not for speed, then for durable and shock-resistance reasons.
I have my Dell Latitude 6510 with two 1TB SSDs (one is instead of the CD-Bay) and run Win10 and some VMwares at the same time without any degration.
wOOdy
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] Im Auftrag von mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Gesendet: Montag, 20. November 2017 15:59 An: ProFox profox@leafe.com Betreff: [NF] SSD drives vs. 7200 rpm drives
Well, I've been talking about it for a couple years now. I think I'm going to buy a laptop this week for some Black Friday deal (hopefully) to get the best savings.
I bought a Surface Pro 3 from a friend last year but I'm used to a Dell Latitude laptop that fits in my docking stations so I'm not taking to the Surface Pro 3 I guess for that reason. Plus I need to wipe his image (it was a buyout from his company) and hence "if I have to spend for that, why not just spend a little more and get a new Dell Latitude."
My question here: I LOVE LOVE LOVE the SSD drives, but of course the 7200 rpm drives are cheaper. Would YOU spend the extra $$$ for the SSD drive (despite it also being smaller in size than the RPM drive)?
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On 2017-11-20 10:18, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:
Always go for the Samsung 850 SSD route. If not for speed, then for durable and shock-resistance reasons.
I have my Dell Latitude 6510 with two 1TB SSDs (one is instead of the CD-Bay) and run Win10 and some VMwares at the same time without any degration.
wOOdy
Hi wOOdy!
WOW...TWO 1TB SSD drives!!!! That's gotta cost a pretty penny! I'll look into the 6510 model. I was looking at the 5570 now.
I bought an HP laptop with 8GB RAM and a 256GB SSD drive for a colleague to run Win 10 and a fairly simple VFP9 app I wrote and it is blisteringly fast - but it is only running the one app, there is a browser and Office on it so that my VFP app can access a bit of automation but nothing else.
I was so impressed I bought a 512GB SSD for my desktop machine. I partitioned it into a system drive and data drive with the main files I use on it. The data I only used rarely was kept on the 2TB hard drive. I noticed some improvement when I did a timing test but it still seems to take an age to boot but that could be because it inherited all the crap that was already clogging the boot. I really must re-install a clean version of Windows but I'm afraid that I won't be able to find all the install discs for some of the stuff I use occasionally - like VFP :-)
John
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Well, I've been talking about it for a couple years now. I think I'm
going to
buy a laptop this week for some Black Friday deal (hopefully) to get the
best
savings.
I bought a Surface Pro 3 from a friend last year but I'm used to a Dell
Latitude
laptop that fits in my docking stations so I'm not taking to the Surface
Pro 3 I
guess for that reason. Plus I need to wipe his image (it was a buyout
from his
company) and hence "if I have to spend for that, why not just spend a
little
more and get a new Dell Latitude."
My question here: I LOVE LOVE LOVE the SSD drives, but of course the 7200 rpm drives are cheaper. Would YOU spend the extra $$$ for the SSD drive (despite it also being smaller in size than the RPM drive)?
The Surface is a very good device. Hunt also for an external dvd-drive, a Bluetooth mouse Rgds Koen
Op ma 20 nov. 2017 om 15:58 schreef < mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com>
Well, I've been talking about it for a couple years now. I think I'm going to buy a laptop this week for some Black Friday deal (hopefully) to get the best savings.
I bought a Surface Pro 3 from a friend last year but I'm used to a Dell Latitude laptop that fits in my docking stations so I'm not taking to the Surface Pro 3 I guess for that reason. Plus I need to wipe his image (it was a buyout from his company) and hence "if I have to spend for that, why not just spend a little more and get a new Dell Latitude."
My question here: I LOVE LOVE LOVE the SSD drives, but of course the 7200 rpm drives are cheaper. Would YOU spend the extra $$$ for the SSD drive (despite it also being smaller in size than the RPM drive)?
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For a laptop I wouldn't even consider a rotating disk. Had several classic HDDs that crashed, but never an SSD. I first switched to SSDs eight years ago. My current laptop has a 2 TB SSD (a single drive, wOOdy! <gd&r>) and duplicates an 80 GB VM image in less than a minute.
Classic disks are for servers or NAS storage. SSD drives are only 260 €/TB (320 for Samsung). It's probably the cheapest way to improve performance. Samsung has a 4 TB SSD for laptops, if you are worried about capacity (link https://www.amazon.de/Samsung-MZ-75E4T0B-EU-interne-schwarz/dp/B01ECEM7S2/ref=sr_1_10 for wOOdy).
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Dude... 4 Tb on a single SSD? That's like as crazy as the new Tesla Roadster :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kY6rCAuLpQ
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] Im Auftrag von Wollenhaupt, Christof Gesendet: Montag, 20. November 2017 17:51 An: profox@leafe.com Betreff: Re: [NF] SSD drives vs. 7200 rpm drives
For a laptop I wouldn't even consider a rotating disk. Had several classic HDDs that crashed, but never an SSD. I first switched to SSDs eight years ago. My current laptop has a 2 TB SSD (a single drive, wOOdy! <gd&r>) and duplicates an 80 GB VM image in less than a minute.
Classic disks are for servers or NAS storage. SSD drives are only 260 €/TB (320 for Samsung). It's probably the cheapest way to improve performance. Samsung has a 4 TB SSD for laptops, if you are worried about capacity (link https://www.amazon.de/Samsung-MZ-75E4T0B-EU-interne-schwarz/dp/B01ECEM7S2/ref=sr_1_10 for wOOdy).
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Just pay for it today and we will build it within 4-6-8 years. We need that cash influx to scale up for it btw.
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Jürgen Wondzinski juergen@wondzinski.de wrote:
Dude... 4 Tb on a single SSD? That's like as crazy as the new Tesla Roadster :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kY6rCAuLpQ
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] Im Auftrag von Wollenhaupt, Christof Gesendet: Montag, 20. November 2017 17:51 An: profox@leafe.com Betreff: Re: [NF] SSD drives vs. 7200 rpm drives
For a laptop I wouldn't even consider a rotating disk. Had several classic HDDs that crashed, but never an SSD. I first switched to SSDs eight years ago. My current laptop has a 2 TB SSD (a single drive, wOOdy! <gd&r>) and duplicates an 80 GB VM image in less than a minute.
Classic disks are for servers or NAS storage. SSD drives are only 260 €/TB (320 for Samsung). It's probably the cheapest way to improve performance. Samsung has a 4 TB SSD for laptops, if you are worried about capacity (link https://www.amazon.de/Samsung-MZ-75E4T0B-EU-interne- schwarz/dp/B01ECEM7S2/ref=sr_1_10 for wOOdy).
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