On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Mike mike@ggisoft.com wrote:

I have tried using RDP in the past, and found it to be quite a pain to set up with all the port assignments. It works well enough, but I didn't think printing was included? I'll revisit it. (I assume you're talking about Microsoft RDP that is built into Windows?)

In the Remote Desktop app, the second or third tab is "Local Resources" or something like that, and there's a checkbox for "Printers"

A few versions ago, remote printing was a nightmare, but this has worked for us. IIRC, if you're using 3rd party (vendor-supplied) printer drivers locally, you need to do something to supply them to the side that's actually doing the work, as they get loaded on the fly and then unloaded as part of the RDP session. But check up on that, as it's likely "legacy knowledge" as well.

Thanks, Alan! It does look promising!

Mike

Alan Bourke wrote:

Take a look at Thinstuff maybe.

http://www.thinstuff.com/products

Uses RDP but far cheaper than implementing a Microsoft RDP server setup. Works fine for VFP applications.

Thanks, Peter! I'm still looking (after taking a short break to deal with more pressing matters.)

Mike

Peter Cushing wrote:

On 06/11/2017 08:38, Alan Bourke wrote:

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Take a look at Thinstuff maybe.

http://www.thinstuff.com/products

Uses RDP but far cheaper than implementing a Microsoft RDP server setup. Works fine for VFP applications.

We use this and it works great.  We also use RDP guard to stop brute force attacks etc.

https://rdpguard.com/

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Dave,

Thanks! That aligns with what I experienced as I played with Splashtop. Great program, great price, but doesn't fit this niche.

So far, Remote Utilities (yeah, goofy name, but that's what they call it) seems to be the front runner. In case this helps someone else I'll keep you posted.

If anyone else has any tips on other applications, I'd appreciate hearing about it/them.

Mike

Dave Crozier wrote:

Mike, Everything in Splashtop has to be done through the main Splashtop Module (Splashtop Business) which holds a directory of "remote machines" and it is this that sets up the remote connection. So in answer to your question it is not possible to simple set up a one to one shortcut on the desktop to automatically connect.

Within the Splashtop Business module you hold a registry of all the remote machines (Icons and the PC's status Off/ONLINE) so choosing the remote PC is somply a case of selecting the remote machine and clicking the icon which will remote connect automatically. The remote PC can be set up to connect without any interaction at the other end and to either blank or leave the remote screen as available during the remote session so no need to have an operator at the remote end to authorise you.

I have about 30 remote PC's configured in my Business Splashtop program which I can remote into at any time but only to one machine at a time.

Note there are restrictions on the number of people who can use the Business Splashtop session at the same time. I only require one i.e myself but I have it installed on a multitude of PC's and phones/tablets. The cost to use Business Splashtop for me is £80 UK Pounds per year but increases for multiple technicians to use as I stated.

Hope this helps. Ask away if you require more info.

Dave

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-----Original Message----- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: 05 November 2017 19:07 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Subject: NF - Splashtop Remote software use

Does anyone have experience with Splashtop remote software and understand their offerings enough to comment? I currently use $$$$$LOGMEIN$$$$$$

After comments here about (and researching) Splashtop, I'm convinced it could be a viable solution for a LOT less $$$ than Logmein. But I have one specific scenario that I can't get an answer (from Splashtop) about.

I have about 50 end users that are in City A, and need to connect to computers in City B to run an application that still uses DBF files. I think it's a Clipper app, it uses NDX files, too.

With Logmein it's very easy to a) install Logmein on both 'ends' of the connection (computer in City A, computer in City B) b) place a shortcut on the desktop of the workstation in City A that links that workstation to a specific computer in City B c) the end user double-clicks shortcut, it connects after password entry, and they have their own private remote session.

How would that be done with Splashtop? Would it be best to set up individual accounts for each City A remote workstation?

I've looked through Splashtop's offerings and I don't really see that they address this scenario. I've talked to three different "pre sales techs" on their webchat and none of them grasped what the scenario was (offering silly solutions.)

And before anyone suggests other solutions (software) I have to have remote printing, which seems to be somewhat rare...

Thanks for all feedback! Mike Copeland

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Thanks, Ted.

Unfortunately, the app that is creating the problem (using DBFs) is not something I created or have the desire (or authority) to replace. It's an appliance repair application that schedules in-home service calls, manages repair parts inventory, billing, technician routing, etc, etc, etc.

I'm pretty much stuck with providing RDP-like services from the remote locations to the city where the data resides.

And, as I said in my other response, the author claims to be porting the application over to "the cloud" so that the service techs will have real-time access via a cellphone hotspot to create invoices in the home, etc. But, the best laid plans of mice and men tend to be delayed...

Mike

Ted Roche wrote:

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Mike mike@ggisoft.com wrote:

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If anyone else has any tips on other applications, I'd appreciate hearing about it/them.

Building on the idea you already have the VPN installed, so you've got encrypted tunneling and authentication taken care of, "all you need to do" (I love when my clients start a sentence that way!) is reach the app over that VPN.

Since Thierry seems to be taking the day off <g> I'd suggest you set up FoxInCloud to work as an *INTRANET* application: the remote workstations could use a browser to access the app. You solve the latency and bandwidth problems of sharing DBFs.

Right you are....it does seem to be very capable for a ridiculous price.

Unfortunately, while it will create a shortcut for the desktop that will take you directly to the desired remote computer's desktop (this is EXACTLY what I'm looking for), that same double-click of the shortcut insists on also opening the management window where the user would have access to all the other systems that have been set up.

So, onward I look.

Mike

Ted Roche wrote:

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Mike mike@ggisoft.com wrote:

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So far, Remote Utilities (yeah, goofy name, but that's what they call it) seems to be the front runner. In case this helps someone else I'll keep you posted.

Wow, RU seems too good to be true! Which should make a reasonable person cautious.

It seems to work on something like the Skype model, where both sides need to "phone home" to their central server in order to connect through a firewall. And they seem to offer a version of their RU server so you could self-support if needed (note: that server would need to be outside the local firewalls). I am concerned about the security issues: this software would have complete access to the network and communicates over the internet, so requires a great deal of trust. The company is based in the Seychelles, with whom I have little experience.

Reviews look good. Please keep us updated on what you find.