At 05:14 2017-06-07, Stephen Russell srussell705@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:55 AM, Gene Wirchenko genew@telus.net wrote:
At 21:28 2017-06-06, mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
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I was surprised years ago (and somewhat still am) with how low the bar got
set on what was an acceptable UX on a website. Much of that would have NEVER been tolerated in a desktop app.
<sarcasm style="dripping">But Web app UX has been improvingoh-so-much-more than desktop apps for some time now.</sarcasm>
For some reason, you see UX like a painter who's medium is oil based. When presented water colors you do not know how to express your craft with the tools and call them inferior because of it.
Nope, because I do not do much Web programming. I am an end user for the most part with Webpages.
I see plenty of Webpages that have been (mis)designed by others that are a horror to use. I do not like the poor UX.
In the end, both mediums can be crafted and form great pieces of art. The petty bickering between the artist gets redundant after a while.
While Webpages can be great, etc., they all too often not only are not great but are horrid.
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Gene Wirchenko genew@telus.net wrote:
In the end, both mediums can be crafted and form great pieces of art. The
petty bickering between the artist gets redundant after a while.
While Webpages can be great, etc., they all too often not only arenot great but are horrid.
You should look at Salesforce as one that doesn't suck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD0awb4rO68 or this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF1Xwp2XQNg
Salesforce? I cringe every time I have to use it. There's nothing particularly intuitive about it, imho, at least out of the box.
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On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Gene Wirchenko genew@telus.net wrote:
In the end, both mediums can be crafted and form great pieces of art. The
petty bickering between the artist gets redundant after a while.
While Webpages can be great, etc., they all too often not only arenot great but are horrid.
You should look at Salesforce as one that doesn't suck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD0awb4rO68 or this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF1Xwp2XQNg
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Richard Kaye rkaye@invaluable.com wrote:
Salesforce? I cringe every time I have to use it. There's nothing particularly intuitive about it, imho, at least out of the box.
This is the system I use, LN, and how to place a sales order.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ros6m2BBI84
Only watch this if you can SPEED it up to 1.5x in speed.
Nice form! Couple of questions. Can you program hot keys so as to not use the mouse to save the order for example? And I'd like to know the language you use to program this app. Or should I say languages? And what about security, do you have to take care of it or does the language/framework handle it?
On 08/06/17 17:15, Stephen Russell wrote:
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Richard Kaye rkaye@invaluable.com wrote:
Salesforce? I cringe every time I have to use it. There's nothing particularly intuitive about it, imho, at least out of the box.
This is the system I use, LN, and how to place a sales order.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ros6m2BBI84
Only watch this if you can SPEED it up to 1.5x in speed.
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Ricardo Araoz ricaraoz@gmail.com wrote:
Nice form! Couple of questions. Can you program hot keys so as to not use the mouse to save the order for example? And I'd like to know the language you use to program this app. Or should I say languages? And what about security, do you have to take care of it or does the language/framework handle it?
On 08/06/17 17:15, Stephen Russell wrote:
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Richard Kaye rkaye@invaluable.com wrote:
Salesforce? I cringe every time I have to use it. There's nothing
particularly intuitive about it, imho, at least out of the box.
This is the system I use, LN, and how to place a sales order.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ros6m2BBI84
Only watch this if you can SPEED it up to 1.5x in speed.
100% java there and I do not think that you understand what a save is. In reality, you are progressing an order through all the phases of OE, Production, Warehousing, Shipping. There are many status changes that take place with approvals and releases.
Each user can customize their version of every screen. What columns to display and in what order in the grid as well as the sort. All columns have a search header on them to find what you need real quick. It is a pretty good ERP.
On 08/06/17 22:49, Stephen Russell wrote:
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Ricardo Araoz ricaraoz@gmail.com wrote:
Nice form! Couple of questions. Can you program hot keys so as to not use the mouse to save the order for example? And I'd like to know the language you use to program this app. Or should I say languages? And what about security, do you have to take care of it or does the language/framework handle it?
100% java there and I do not think that you understand what a save is. In reality, you are progressing an order through all the phases of OE, Production, Warehousing, Shipping. There are many status changes that take place with approvals and releases.
Each user can customize their version of every screen. What columns to display and in what order in the grid as well as the sort. All columns have a search header on them to find what you need real quick. It is a pretty good ERP.
I like the interface, looks really good and fast. Can you program hot keys? What about security?
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 10:14 PM, Ricardo Araoz ricaraoz@gmail.com wrote:
I like the interface, looks really good and fast. Can you program hot keys? What about security?
For us, security is via AD creds that are demanded when you open the application.
Before I say yes or no for Hot Keys, more on the intent for it is necessary. What do you want to accomplish with the hot key?
There is an app that sits atop the entire beast called ION and it will make an XML BOD for any activity you want to know more about or interact with. We have a workflow for identifying a 0 dollar item being sold. Many of our items have printed artwork associated with them and when that art is changed there is a many step process to obsolete the item. We usually will send a truck of their old inventory @ 0.00 as part of the new art fee we charge. The message generated asks the user to verify that ALL the inventory is in this load. If the user states yes then a work request goes to corporate to change the status of the item and verify the replacement item is set properly in the system.
On the flip side, I can make an insert bod for an order and it will know what plant to record it for as well as what accounting companies to use. It will carry data for 20+ tables and do all the inserts needed.
On 2017-06-08 16:09, Richard Kaye wrote:
Salesforce? I cringe every time I have to use it. There's nothing particularly intuitive about it, imho, at least out of the box.
I've not used Salesforce but their marketing youtube demo looked impressive I thought. Then again, actually working with it might not be as exciting. lol
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Gene Wirchenko genew@telus.net wrote:
I see plenty of Webpages that have been (mis)designed by others thatare a horror to use. I do not like the poor UX.
While Webpages can be great, etc., they all too often not only are notgreat but are horrid.
I suspect we have all seen tens of thousands of web pages, most mediocre or worse, while we've probably only seen hundreds of Windows and DOS data entry screens, most mediocre or worse.
UX is hard.
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