I'm sure this has been discussed before but can't seem to find much in the archives.
We have a VFP9 app that works great when you are using a PC. On tablets and phones using a touch screen it is quite difficult to use the normal menu that comes with VFP. I know you can increase the size of lower menu items but can't see any way of increasing the size of _msysmenu.
I know you could roll your own but want to see if anyone has any other ideas?
TIA
You should make a second meny style buttons based, so those users can switch to them, or you can replace completely the menu system for something more touch-friendly
2016-04-08 13:32 GMT+02:00 Peter Cushing pcushing@whisperingsmith.com:
I'm sure this has been discussed before but can't seem to find much in the archives.
We have a VFP9 app that works great when you are using a PC. On tablets and phones using a touch screen it is quite difficult to use the normal menu that comes with VFP. I know you can increase the size of lower menu items but can't see any way of increasing the size of _msysmenu.
I know you could roll your own but want to see if anyone has any other ideas?
TIA
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BIG BUTTONS are the answer Peter. We tried the same thing with our apps and it was a dismal failure. Then we had a rethink and just modified the user interface to use buttons that you just can not mistake!!
Funnily enough lots of the people using the desktop app also prefer this approach so I added in the ability to put user icon shortcuts onto the desktop per user, which makes it totally personal.
Dave
-----Original Message----- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Peter Cushing Sent: 08 April 2016 12:33 To: ProFox List profox@leafe.com Subject: VFP top level menu on tablets and phones
I'm sure this has been discussed before but can't seem to find much in the archives.
We have a VFP9 app that works great when you are using a PC. On tablets and phones using a touch screen it is quite difficult to use the normal menu that comes with VFP. I know you can increase the size of lower menu items but can't see any way of increasing the size of _msysmenu.
I know you could roll your own but want to see if anyone has any other ideas?
TIA
-- Peter Cushing IT Department WHISPERING SMITH
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Hi Dave,
Funnily enough we are just looking at putting some buttons on the main desktop and the option to customise them.
Thanks,
Peter Cushing IT Department WHISPERING SMITH
On 08/04/2016 13:04, Dave Crozier wrote:
BIG BUTTONS are the answer Peter. We tried the same thing with our apps and it was a dismal failure. Then we had a rethink and just modified the user interface to use buttons that you just can not mistake!!
Funnily enough lots of the people using the desktop app also prefer this approach so I added in the ability to put user icon shortcuts onto the desktop per user, which makes it totally personal.
Dave
-----Original Message----- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Peter Cushing Sent: 08 April 2016 12:33 To: ProFox List profox@leafe.com Subject: VFP top level menu on tablets and phones
I'm sure this has been discussed before but can't seem to find much in the archives.
We have a VFP9 app that works great when you are using a PC. On tablets and phones using a touch screen it is quite difficult to use the normal menu that comes with VFP. I know you can increase the size of lower menu items but can't see any way of increasing the size of _msysmenu.
I know you could roll your own but want to see if anyone has any other ideas?
TIA
-- Peter Cushing IT Department WHISPERING SMITH
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On 08/04/2016 13:04, Dave Crozier wrote:
BIG BUTTONS are the answer Peter. We tried the same thing with our apps and it was a dismal failure. Then we had a rethink and just modified the user interface to use buttons that you just can not mistake!!
Funnily enough lots of the people using the desktop app also prefer this approach so I added in the ability to put user icon shortcuts onto the desktop per user, which makes it totally personal.
Hi Dave,
Just playing round with the interface and the possibility of replacing the menu with buttons. In the past I have ignored top level forms and just used the desktop with a menu and call all forms etc from the menu. Do you use a top level form and put the main menu buttons on that, then when they click on a button put up some more buttons for the submenu?
Also been playing with shortcuts on the desktop. Used a picture under an invisible button and seems to work fine on a form but couldn't get it to work on the desktop. Is that how you did it?
Thanks,
Peter
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Peter, Yes, I used a top level form to control access to sub forms and leave it floating or minimised. It seems to work well, also I subclassed the buttons so you can freely change their style etc. Users seem to love it as it is very simple and I have added the ability to drag "preset button shortcuts" onto the desktop or main menu so it becomes personalised.
I still haven't finished my Windows 8/10 slideable button class library yet that I put a demo up of about 18 months ago which allows you to set up a "metro" interface just like Windows 8 and group icons which will automatically resize themse3lves. Given some free time I will finish it, but that is at a premium at the moment!
Dave
-----Original Message----- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Peter Cushing Sent: 11 April 2016 13:55 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: VFP top level menu on tablets and phones
On 08/04/2016 13:04, Dave Crozier wrote:
BIG BUTTONS are the answer Peter. We tried the same thing with our apps and it was a dismal failure. Then we had a rethink and just modified the user interface to use buttons that you just can not mistake!!
Funnily enough lots of the people using the desktop app also prefer this approach so I added in the ability to put user icon shortcuts onto the desktop per user, which makes it totally personal.
Hi Dave,
Just playing round with the interface and the possibility of replacing the menu with buttons. In the past I have ignored top level forms and just used the desktop with a menu and call all forms etc from the menu. Do you use a top level form and put the main menu buttons on that, then when they click on a button put up some more buttons for the submenu?
Also been playing with shortcuts on the desktop. Used a picture under an invisible button and seems to work fine on a form but couldn't get it to work on the desktop. Is that how you did it?
Thanks,
Peter
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On 11/04/2016 14:03, Dave Crozier wrote:
Peter, Yes, I used a top level form to control access to sub forms and leave it floating or minimised. It seems to work well, also I subclassed the buttons so you can freely change their style etc. Users seem to love it as it is very simple and I have added the ability to drag "preset button shortcuts" onto the desktop or main menu so it becomes personalised.
I still haven't finished my Windows 8/10 slideable button class library yet that I put a demo up of about 18 months ago which allows you to set up a "metro" interface just like Windows 8 and group icons which will automatically resize themse3lves. Given some free time I will finish it, but that is at a premium at the moment!
Great, thanks.
Peter
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POS systems are always using big buttons on touch screen. So you can convert Foxpro menu MNX definition into a button-based interface!
http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~ReadFoxProMenuFileToProduceButton-BasedMenu...
On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 7:32 PM, Peter Cushing pcushing@whisperingsmith.com wrote:
I'm sure this has been discussed before but can't seem to find much in the archives.
We have a VFP9 app that works great when you are using a PC. On tablets and phones using a touch screen it is quite difficult to use the normal menu that comes with VFP. I know you can increase the size of lower menu items but can't see any way of increasing the size of _msysmenu.
I know you could roll your own but want to see if anyone has any other ideas?
TIA
-- Peter Cushing IT Department WHISPERING SMITH
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On 12/04/2016 07:28, Man-wai Chang wrote:
POS systems are always using big buttons on touch screen. So you can convert Foxpro menu MNX definition into a button-based interface!
http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~ReadFoxProMenuFileToProduceButton-BasedMenu...
That's great. Had to change it slightly to get it to work but looks like the sort of thing I'm looking for.
Thanks,
Peter
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