https://www.screencast.com/t/DSoufK8yZhYt
Maybe it's just me, but Lianja posting this ad for VFP 10 seems deceptive and not ethical, especially given the Chinese VFP 10 that we've heard about recently and is maybe a growing buzz in the community.
Yes I agree with them: Lianja is what Microsoft should have done to VFP if they would have understood the product and their users. It really deserves more acknowledgement and help.
Personally I find Lianja the best spin-off from the original FoxPro roots. Maybe you don't know it, but Lianja is based on Recital, which is a long standing very stable "FoxPro on Big Iron"; it's known since 1988! They have their own SQLServer including ODBC drivers, their own RecitalServerPages ( *.rsp, like *.afp or *.asp), and with Lianja they made the logical evolution towards an Application server (like Servoy and others), but can stil compile true Standalones for Linux, Macs and Windows. And IOS and Android of course...
Lianja is based on the VFP object-model with container hierarchy etc. It has a lot of enhancements to the VFP9 syntax and language, Thus: Yes it's like VFP 10, or maybe VP 11 in the meantime. And you can write your code in VFP, PHP, Phyton, JScript, TypeScript and Babel. Thus you always will find some programmer to maintain your apps :)
wOOdy
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] Im Auftrag von mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Gesendet: Montag, 13. November 2017 15:42 An: ProFox profox@leafe.com Betreff: Deceptive ad for VFP 10
https://www.screencast.com/t/DSoufK8yZhYt
Maybe it's just me, but Lianja posting this ad for VFP 10 seems deceptive and not ethical, especially given the Chinese VFP 10 that we've heard about recently and is maybe a growing buzz in the community.
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On 2017-11-13 10:14, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:
Yes I agree with them: Lianja is what Microsoft should have done to VFP if they would have understood the product and their users. It really deserves more acknowledgement and help.
Personally I find Lianja the best spin-off from the original FoxPro roots. Maybe you don't know it, but Lianja is based on Recital, which is a long standing very stable "FoxPro on Big Iron"; it's known since 1988! They have their own SQLServer including ODBC drivers, their own RecitalServerPages ( *.rsp, like *.afp or *.asp), and with Lianja they made the logical evolution towards an Application server (like Servoy and others), but can stil compile true Standalones for Linux, Macs and Windows. And IOS and Android of course...
Lianja is based on the VFP object-model with container hierarchy etc. It has a lot of enhancements to the VFP9 syntax and language, Thus: Yes it's like VFP 10, or maybe VP 11 in the meantime. And you can write your code in VFP, PHP, Phyton, JScript, TypeScript and Babel. Thus you always will find some programmer to maintain your apps :)
wOOdy
Thanks for the insight, wOOdy...that answers my other post asking about Lianja too!
Lianja is a great platform and has a high level of compatibility with VFP.
On 2017-11-13 10:14, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:
Yes I agree with them: Lianja is what Microsoft should have done to VFP if they would have understood the product and their users. It really deserves more acknowledgement and help.
Perhaps M$'s new leadership will re-activate Calvin Hsia and his crew for the Phoenix project ("rebirth"). lol
BTW: The chinese port is called VFPA , not VFP10 :) Since it doesn't add any significant new commands, syntax, language or objects, I wouldn't compare it with a VFP10 enhancement level.
wOOdy
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] Im Auftrag von mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Gesendet: Montag, 13. November 2017 15:42 An: ProFox profox@leafe.com Betreff: Deceptive ad for VFP 10
https://www.screencast.com/t/DSoufK8yZhYt
Maybe it's just me, but Lianja posting this ad for VFP 10 seems deceptive and not ethical, especially given the Chinese VFP 10 that we've heard about recently and is maybe a growing buzz in the community.
Alan,
It's my understanding that Lianja is one guy, though the legality isn't in question....
Bill Anderson
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 8:40 AM, Alan Bourke alanpbourke@fastmail.fm wrote:
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017, at 03:19 PM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:
BTW: The chinese port is called VFPA , not VFP10 :)
And is one guy and of dubious legality I would think.
-- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
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Hi Bill, how do you come to that conclusion? Lianja and Recital is surely more than a one-man-show. The lead programmer is Barry Mavin, but he has some folk behind him.
wOOdy
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] Im Auftrag von Bill Anderson Gesendet: Montag, 13. November 2017 20:30 An: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Betreff: Re: Deceptive ad for VFP 10
Alan,
It's my understanding that Lianja is one guy, though the legality isn't in question....
Bill Anderson
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 8:40 AM, Alan Bourke alanpbourke@fastmail.fm wrote:
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017, at 03:19 PM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:
BTW: The chinese port is called VFPA , not VFP10 :)
And is one guy and of dubious legality I would think.
-- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
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wOOdy,
First of all, welcome back!
I don't know the details regarding Recital.
As far as Lianja is concerned, I've heard from people that should know that Barry is the only developer and that Lianja development work will take a back seat for other paying clients...
Bill Anderson
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Jürgen Wondzinski juergen@wondzinski.de wrote:
Hi Bill, how do you come to that conclusion? Lianja and Recital is surely more than a one-man-show. The lead programmer is Barry Mavin, but he has some folk behind him.
wOOdy
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] Im Auftrag von Bill Anderson Gesendet: Montag, 13. November 2017 20:30 An: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Betreff: Re: Deceptive ad for VFP 10
Alan,
It's my understanding that Lianja is one guy, though the legality isn't in question....
Bill Anderson
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 8:40 AM, Alan Bourke alanpbourke@fastmail.fm wrote:
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017, at 03:19 PM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:
BTW: The chinese port is called VFPA , not VFP10 :)
And is one guy and of dubious legality I would think.
-- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
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