Hi All
What extra happens when using Remove Views over SPT?
Using the same ODBC conneciton to a Filemaker database if I do "select * from ...." I get mixed results for the text strings.
If I perform the same query via a remote view I get the same mixed result.
But if I go one step further with the Remote View and specifc properties of the fields it manages to pull complete information out of filemaker.
So what extra is Remote View managing to ask of the Filemaker ODBC driver to make it behave?
Any ideas?
Regards
Chris.
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Remote views, as you've indicated, let you specify the target structure of the query.
When you execute direct SPT Fox attempts to get the first record matching the query, and uses the structure of that result as the (fixed column) structure of the result set. So, if you have a varying-length string (varchar) and the first result is 3 characters, VFP might create a C(3) field, which could truncate everything else. Does that describe what you are seeing?
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:54 AM Chris Davis chrisd@actongate.co.uk wrote:
Hi All
What extra happens when using Remove Views over SPT?
Using the same ODBC conneciton to a Filemaker database if I do "select * from ...." I get mixed results for the text strings.
If I perform the same query via a remote view I get the same mixed result.
But if I go one step further with the Remote View and specifc properties of the fields it manages to pull complete information out of filemaker.
So what extra is Remote View managing to ask of the Filemaker ODBC driver to make it behave?
Any ideas?
Regards
Chris.
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Not really, I can issue the query once and I get C(10) and again and I get M(10) with the whole value in it.
It seems to be an issue with the Filemaker ODBC driver, they suggested VFP does ODBC v1? And their driver only supports ODBC v2?
Whatever the issue is, Remote Views seem to get around it. I would just like to be able to get around it using SPT.
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Tuesday, 06 November 2018 16:53 To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: SPT and Remote Views
Remote views, as you've indicated, let you specify the target structure of the query.
When you execute direct SPT Fox attempts to get the first record matching the query, and uses the structure of that result as the (fixed column) structure of the result set. So, if you have a varying-length string (varchar) and the first result is 3 characters, VFP might create a C(3) field, which could truncate everything else. Does that describe what you are seeing?
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:54 AM Chris Davis chrisd@actongate.co.uk wrote:
Hi All
What extra happens when using Remove Views over SPT?
Using the same ODBC conneciton to a Filemaker database if I do "select
- from ...." I get mixed results for the text strings.
If I perform the same query via a remote view I get the same mixed result.
But if I go one step further with the Remote View and specifc properties of the fields it manages to pull complete information out of filemaker.
So what extra is Remote View managing to ask of the Filemaker ODBC driver to make it behave?
Any ideas?
Regards
Chris.
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Just a quick FYI.
If using SQL Pass-through, don't forget you have the "CAST()" syntax available (you can convert dates to strings, set a size of the character length, etc). I've used it frequently to ensure a "proper" (expected) VFP data type output result.
-Charlie
On 11/6/2018 12:08 PM, Chris Davis wrote:
Not really, I can issue the query once and I get C(10) and again and I get M(10) with the whole value in it.
It seems to be an issue with the Filemaker ODBC driver, they suggested VFP does ODBC v1? And their driver only supports ODBC v2?
Whatever the issue is, Remote Views seem to get around it. I would just like to be able to get around it using SPT.
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Tuesday, 06 November 2018 16:53 To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: SPT and Remote Views
Remote views, as you've indicated, let you specify the target structure of the query.
When you execute direct SPT Fox attempts to get the first record matching the query, and uses the structure of that result as the (fixed column) structure of the result set. So, if you have a varying-length string (varchar) and the first result is 3 characters, VFP might create a C(3) field, which could truncate everything else. Does that describe what you are seeing?
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:54 AM Chris Davis chrisd@actongate.co.uk wrote:
Hi All
What extra happens when using Remove Views over SPT?
Using the same ODBC conneciton to a Filemaker database if I do "select
- from ...." I get mixed results for the text strings.
If I perform the same query via a remote view I get the same mixed result.
But if I go one step further with the Remote View and specifc properties of the fields it manages to pull complete information out of filemaker.
So what extra is Remote View managing to ask of the Filemaker ODBC driver to make it behave?
Any ideas?
Regards
Chris.
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+1
Paul H. Tarver Tarver Program Consultants, Inc.
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Charlie-gm Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 2:46 PM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: SPT and Remote Views
Just a quick FYI.
If using SQL Pass-through, don't forget you have the "CAST()" syntax available (you can convert dates to strings, set a size of the character length, etc). I've used it frequently to ensure a "proper" (expected) VFP data type output result.
-Charlie
On 11/6/2018 12:08 PM, Chris Davis wrote:
Not really, I can issue the query once and I get C(10) and again and I get
M(10) with the whole value in it.
It seems to be an issue with the Filemaker ODBC driver, they suggested VFP
does ODBC v1? And their driver only supports ODBC v2?
Whatever the issue is, Remote Views seem to get around it. I would just
like to be able to get around it using SPT.
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Tuesday, 06 November 2018 16:53 To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: SPT and Remote Views
Remote views, as you've indicated, let you specify the target structure of
the query.
When you execute direct SPT Fox attempts to get the first record matching
the query, and uses the structure of that result as the (fixed column) structure of the result set. So, if you have a varying-length string
(varchar) and the first result is 3 characters, VFP might create a C(3)
field, which could truncate everything else. Does that describe what you are seeing?
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:54 AM Chris Davis chrisd@actongate.co.uk
wrote:
Hi All
What extra happens when using Remove Views over SPT?
Using the same ODBC conneciton to a Filemaker database if I do "select
- from ...." I get mixed results for the text strings.
If I perform the same query via a remote view I get the same mixed
result.
But if I go one step further with the Remote View and specifc properties of the fields it manages to pull complete information out of
filemaker.
So what extra is Remote View managing to ask of the Filemaker ODBC driver to make it behave?
Any ideas?
Regards
Chris.
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I was looking for an old blog post but I couldn't find it. At times there may be a problem with the ODBC connection and using CAST(), especially with VARCHAR(max). If you ever experience problem using CAST() and accessing a field of type VARCHAR(max), take a look at CONVERT(). This will work with VFP ( and Xojo! ) to access these fields where CAST() fails.
-----Original Message----- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Paul H. Tarver Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 3:14 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: SPT and Remote Views
+1
Paul H. Tarver Tarver Program Consultants, Inc.
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Charlie-gm Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 2:46 PM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: SPT and Remote Views
Just a quick FYI.
If using SQL Pass-through, don't forget you have the "CAST()" syntax available (you can convert dates to strings, set a size of the character length, etc). I've used it frequently to ensure a "proper" (expected) VFP data type output result.
-Charlie
On 11/6/2018 12:08 PM, Chris Davis wrote:
Not really, I can issue the query once and I get C(10) and again and I get
M(10) with the whole value in it.
It seems to be an issue with the Filemaker ODBC driver, they suggested VFP
does ODBC v1? And their driver only supports ODBC v2?
Whatever the issue is, Remote Views seem to get around it. I would just
like to be able to get around it using SPT.
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Tuesday, 06 November 2018 16:53 To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: SPT and Remote Views
Remote views, as you've indicated, let you specify the target structure of
the query.
When you execute direct SPT Fox attempts to get the first record matching
the query, and uses the structure of that result as the (fixed column) structure of the result set. So, if you have a varying-length string
(varchar) and the first result is 3 characters, VFP might create a C(3)
field, which could truncate everything else. Does that describe what you are seeing?
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:54 AM Chris Davis chrisd@actongate.co.uk
wrote:
Hi All
What extra happens when using Remove Views over SPT?
Using the same ODBC conneciton to a Filemaker database if I do "select
- from ...." I get mixed results for the text strings.
If I perform the same query via a remote view I get the same mixed
result.
But if I go one step further with the Remote View and specifc properties of the fields it manages to pull complete information out of
filemaker.
So what extra is Remote View managing to ask of the Filemaker ODBC driver to make it behave?
Any ideas?
Regards
Chris.
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Haven't run into a problem with CAST(), but I'll add CONVERT() to my notes for further review.
Thanks!
Paul H. Tarver Tarver Program Consultants, Inc.
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kevin J Cully Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 2:24 PM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: RE: SPT and Remote Views
I was looking for an old blog post but I couldn't find it. At times there may be a problem with the ODBC connection and using CAST(), especially with VARCHAR(max). If you ever experience problem using CAST() and accessing a field of type VARCHAR(max), take a look at CONVERT(). This will work with VFP ( and Xojo! ) to access these fields where CAST() fails.
-----Original Message----- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Paul H. Tarver Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 3:14 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: SPT and Remote Views
+1
Paul H. Tarver Tarver Program Consultants, Inc.
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Charlie-gm Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 2:46 PM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: SPT and Remote Views
Just a quick FYI.
If using SQL Pass-through, don't forget you have the "CAST()" syntax available (you can convert dates to strings, set a size of the character length, etc). I've used it frequently to ensure a "proper" (expected) VFP data type output result.
-Charlie
On 11/6/2018 12:08 PM, Chris Davis wrote:
Not really, I can issue the query once and I get C(10) and again and I get
M(10) with the whole value in it.
It seems to be an issue with the Filemaker ODBC driver, they suggested VFP
does ODBC v1? And their driver only supports ODBC v2?
Whatever the issue is, Remote Views seem to get around it. I would just
like to be able to get around it using SPT.
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Tuesday, 06 November 2018 16:53 To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: SPT and Remote Views
Remote views, as you've indicated, let you specify the target structure of
the query.
When you execute direct SPT Fox attempts to get the first record matching
the query, and uses the structure of that result as the (fixed column) structure of the result set. So, if you have a varying-length string
(varchar) and the first result is 3 characters, VFP might create a C(3)
field, which could truncate everything else. Does that describe what you are seeing?
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:54 AM Chris Davis chrisd@actongate.co.uk
wrote:
Hi All
What extra happens when using Remove Views over SPT?
Using the same ODBC conneciton to a Filemaker database if I do "select
- from ...." I get mixed results for the text strings.
If I perform the same query via a remote view I get the same mixed
result.
But if I go one step further with the Remote View and specifc properties of the fields it manages to pull complete information out of
filemaker.
So what extra is Remote View managing to ask of the Filemaker ODBC driver to make it behave?
Any ideas?
Regards
Chris.
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You could add a column for the length of varchar(max) content and sort on that descending. Then you will know if the width of Fox cursor is actually getting all of the data.
On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 2:25 PM Kevin J Cully kjcully@cherokeega.com wrote:
I was looking for an old blog post but I couldn't find it. At times there may be a problem with the ODBC connection and using CAST(), especially with VARCHAR(max). If you ever experience problem using CAST() and accessing a field of type VARCHAR(max), take a look at CONVERT(). This will work with VFP ( and Xojo! ) to access these fields where CAST() fails.
-----Original Message----- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Paul H. Tarver Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 3:14 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: SPT and Remote Views
+1
Paul H. Tarver Tarver Program Consultants, Inc.
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Charlie-gm Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 2:46 PM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: SPT and Remote Views
Just a quick FYI.
If using SQL Pass-through, don't forget you have the "CAST()" syntax available (you can convert dates to strings, set a size of the character length, etc). I've used it frequently to ensure a "proper" (expected) VFP data type output result.
-Charlie
On 11/6/2018 12:08 PM, Chris Davis wrote:
Not really, I can issue the query once and I get C(10) and again and I get
M(10) with the whole value in it.
It seems to be an issue with the Filemaker ODBC driver, they suggested VFP
does ODBC v1? And their driver only supports ODBC v2?
Whatever the issue is, Remote Views seem to get around it. I would just
like to be able to get around it using SPT.
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Tuesday, 06 November 2018 16:53 To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: SPT and Remote Views
Remote views, as you've indicated, let you specify the target structure of
the query.
When you execute direct SPT Fox attempts to get the first record matching
the query, and uses the structure of that result as the (fixed column) structure of the result set. So, if you have a varying-length string
(varchar) and the first result is 3 characters, VFP might create a C(3)
field, which could truncate everything else. Does that describe what you are seeing?
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:54 AM Chris Davis chrisd@actongate.co.uk
wrote:
Hi All
What extra happens when using Remove Views over SPT?
Using the same ODBC conneciton to a Filemaker database if I do "select
- from ...." I get mixed results for the text strings.
If I perform the same query via a remote view I get the same mixed
result.
But if I go one step further with the Remote View and specifc properties of the fields it manages to pull complete information out of
filemaker.
So what extra is Remote View managing to ask of the Filemaker ODBC driver to make it behave?
Any ideas?
Regards
Chris.
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Thanks for the all the responses, I contacted filemaker support and basically they say the problem isn't theirs its because the implementation of ODBC in foxpro is v1? And the only support v2.
They proved this by using the same DSN I had created to use with foxpro and querying it via excel and msquery and all the data appears without issue.
I have decided not to pursue using fox to get the data out.
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Stephen Russell Sent: Thursday, 08 November 2018 02:39 To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: SPT and Remote Views
You could add a column for the length of varchar(max) content and sort on that descending. Then you will know if the width of Fox cursor is actually getting all of the data.
On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 2:25 PM Kevin J Cully kjcully@cherokeega.com wrote:
I was looking for an old blog post but I couldn't find it. At times there may be a problem with the ODBC connection and using CAST(), especially with VARCHAR(max). If you ever experience problem using CAST() and accessing a field of type VARCHAR(max), take a look at CONVERT(). This will work with VFP ( and Xojo! ) to access these fields where CAST() fails.
-----Original Message----- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Paul H. Tarver Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 3:14 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: SPT and Remote Views
+1
Paul H. Tarver Tarver Program Consultants, Inc.
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Charlie-gm Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 2:46 PM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: SPT and Remote Views
Just a quick FYI.
If using SQL Pass-through, don't forget you have the "CAST()" syntax available (you can convert dates to strings, set a size of the character length, etc). I've used it frequently to ensure a "proper" (expected) VFP data type output result.
-Charlie
On 11/6/2018 12:08 PM, Chris Davis wrote:
Not really, I can issue the query once and I get C(10) and again and I get
M(10) with the whole value in it.
It seems to be an issue with the Filemaker ODBC driver, they suggested VFP
does ODBC v1? And their driver only supports ODBC v2?
Whatever the issue is, Remote Views seem to get around it. I would just
like to be able to get around it using SPT.
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Tuesday, 06 November 2018 16:53 To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: SPT and Remote Views
Remote views, as you've indicated, let you specify the target structure of
the query.
When you execute direct SPT Fox attempts to get the first record matching
the query, and uses the structure of that result as the (fixed column) structure of the result set. So, if you have a varying-length string
(varchar) and the first result is 3 characters, VFP might create a C(3)
field, which could truncate everything else. Does that describe what you are seeing?
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:54 AM Chris Davis chrisd@actongate.co.uk
wrote:
Hi All
What extra happens when using Remove Views over SPT?
Using the same ODBC conneciton to a Filemaker database if I do "select
- from ...." I get mixed results for the text strings.
If I perform the same query via a remote view I get the same mixed
result.
But if I go one step further with the Remote View and specifc properties of the fields it manages to pull complete information out of
filemaker.
So what extra is Remote View managing to ask of the Filemaker ODBC driver to make it behave?
Any ideas?
Regards
Chris.
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Chris, Not dealt with FM for a couple of years but I did have similar inconsistency issues with the SPT and ended up using remote views when I wrote a small add-on system for a friend who specialises in FM Pro.
One thing is sure.... it isn't going to be fixed if it is an ODBC issue!!!
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Not really, I can issue the query once and I get C(10) and again and I get M(10) with the whole value in it.
It seems to be an issue with the Filemaker ODBC driver, they suggested VFP does ODBC v1? And their driver only supports ODBC v2?
Whatever the issue is, Remote Views seem to get around it. I would just like to be able to get around it using SPT.
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Tuesday, 06 November 2018 16:53 To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: SPT and Remote Views
Remote views, as you've indicated, let you specify the target structure of the query.
When you execute direct SPT Fox attempts to get the first record matching the query, and uses the structure of that result as the (fixed column) structure of the result set. So, if you have a varying-length string (varchar) and the first result is 3 characters, VFP might create a C(3) field, which could truncate everything else. Does that describe what you are seeing?
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:54 AM Chris Davis chrisd@actongate.co.uk wrote:
Hi All
What extra happens when using Remove Views over SPT?
Using the same ODBC conneciton to a Filemaker database if I do "select
- from ...." I get mixed results for the text strings.
If I perform the same query via a remote view I get the same mixed result.
But if I go one step further with the Remote View and specifc properties of the fields it manages to pull complete information out of filemaker.
So what extra is Remote View managing to ask of the Filemaker ODBC driver to make it behave?
Any ideas?
Regards
Chris.
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