Thanks, Mike --

If I get a DVR, can I gain access to and manipulate the files?

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Mike Copeland mike@ggisoft.com wrote:

Ken

I might be off base, but most cable companies have gone to great lengths to prevent you from recording video off their feed.

Saying that, I have had success with the Windows 7 Media Player recording tv feed from an Internet streaming feed (but not from cable feed.)

I thought I read that Microsoft removed the video recording from a video stream in Windows 8 and above.

I also tried several of the OpenSource packages on Linux, complete with hardware, and had no luck. After a few hundred hours I figured I had already spent more than a years rental of a DVR from my cable company would cost.

Good luck!

Mike Copeland

Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) wrote:

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Hey - --

Because of my famous dog (https://www.instagram.com/caninehappyhour/), I need to be able to: -- record live (cable) TV, and -- gain access to the files in order to edit them.

We aren't big TV folks, and we have never had a DVR. I'd be willing to buy an inexpensive one, but shopping and Googling confuses the heck out of me.

For example i see these:

https://www.amazon.com/AVerMedia-EzRecorder-Definition- Recording-ER130/dp/B00LAP3GC8 I see I have to add my own USB hard disk (which I have). Would that do it?

Slingbox: -- https://www.amazon.com/Sling-Media-SB375-100-Slingbox-M2/dp/ B011QHAOWO Would that do it?

Also: https://www.amazon.com/Hauppauge-1212-Definition-Personal- Recorder/dp/B0018LX0DY PVR? Personal Video Recorder?

Comcast is our provider. Is there a way to do this without additional hardware?

I need to record stuff Thursday & Friday.

Anybody willing to give me a kick me in the right direction?

Ken

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If I get a DVR, can I gain access to and manipulate the files?

Nope. Encrypted up the wazoo.

I guess my thinking dates back to VCR days. Thanks, guys.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 5:20 AM, AndyHC andy@hawthorncottage.com wrote:

Some of these cheap Android TV streamers allow recording of the stream - do they encrypt? - even the Chinese ones?

On 18-Oct-16 10:14 AM, Alan Bourke wrote:

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If I get a DVR, can I gain access to and manipulate the files?

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Nope. Encrypted up the wazoo.

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On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Kevin J Cully kjcully@cherokeega.com wrote:

You may want to look at a device such as this: https://amzn.com/B00TF9MCXU

Thanks, Kevin. I ordered something like that. We'll see if I can actually make it work!

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On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 6:19 AM, Alan Bourke alanpbourke@fastmail.fm wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_hole

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Have you looked at Plex and it's new DVR feature, requires a Silicon Dust Receiver and a subscription to Plex Pass.

On 18 Oct 2016, at 15:44, "vrfx@optonline.net" vrfx@optonline.net wrote:

Ken,

Years ago - on my last version of the TiVo box I used - there was a way to DL some of the programming to your PC. But, you were limited to only certain ones that the networks would allow you to do this with. This way - I could view some of my TV shows on my laptop whilst commuting on the train. However, I don't think I was ever able to actually Edit those videos - only view them with the viewer that was distributed by TiVo.

That being said - there used to be (and I think there STILL Is) - special video cards which you can use to view TV on your PC. But, not sure if with that you could edit videos. But, maybe you can. May be worth a look...

-K-

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Hey - --

Because of my famous dog (https://www.instagram.com/caninehappyhour/), I need to be able to: -- record live (cable) TV, and -- gain access to the files in order to edit them.

We aren't big TV folks, and we have never had a DVR. I'd be willing to buy an inexpensive one, but shopping and Googling confuses the heck out of me.

For example i see these:

https://www.amazon.com/AVerMedia-EzRecorder-Definition-Recording- ER130/dp/B00LAP3GC8I see I have to add my own USB hard disk (which I have). Would that do it?

Slingbox: -- https://www.amazon.com/Sling-Media-SB375-100-Slingbox- M2/dp/B011QHAOWOWould that do it?

Also: https://www.amazon.com/Hauppauge-1212-Definition-Personal- Recorder/dp/B0018LX0DYPVR? Personal Video Recorder?

Comcast is our provider. Is there a way to do this without additional hardware?

I need to record stuff Thursday & Friday.

Anybody willing to give me a kick me in the right direction?

Ken

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On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 9:44 AM, vrfx@optonline.net wrote:

That being said - there used to be (and I think there STILL Is) - special video cards which you can use to view TV on your PC. But, not sure if with that you could edit videos. But, maybe you can. May be worth a look...

-K-

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From youTube add letters ss infront of youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6fiRtLMd1k

https://www.ssyoutube.com/watch?v=Q6fiRtLMd1k << to get to save it.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Ted Roche tedroche@gmail.com wrote:

Ken:

The cable/TV/Windows industry have pretty much sewn up the copying of protected materials unless you can find a way to access "the analog hole."

Frankly, if you need to do it this week, use/borrow a videocamera and record it off the TV. A lot of cellphones will do this, although usually only a couple of minutes. Test it out first.

If this is a show of your dog on a local TV station, contact them directly about how to get a copy of the show. Most studio engineers will do that as a courtesy to their subjects.

If the station puts features on their website, you can often download the episode by hacking around on their website. or wait for someone else to put it on YouTube. "How to download video off YouTube" has a few million suggestions on the internet.

Years ago, I used a couple of different video adaptors and a Linux box running MythTV, but it was weeks of experimentation and constant tweaks to get it working. The good news is you can get a video in the format you'd prefer. But you earn it. 48 hours is a tad optimistic.

-- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com

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On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Ted Roche tedroche@gmail.com wrote:

If this is a show of your dog on a local TV station, contact them directly about how to get a copy of the show. Most studio engineers will do that as a courtesy to their subjects.

Thanks, Ted. For some reason, this station never puts this reporter's stories on its website. Not clear why. You are right, though, for some of Tula's (our dog) interviews on radio and TV the engineers have given us copies. Based on what the reporter said, I got the impression that it wasn't an option in this situation.

Fortunately, the stories from most of her appearances have been on the stations' websites. She has been on many, many stations (125-130?), plus the CTV network evening news, and a huge number of newspaper websites.

I did order a device, but we may need to go the camera route...

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On 18 October 2016 at 19:36, vrfx@optonline.net wrote:

FYI - a number of months ago I called in to local radio morning show - when these guys were discussing 3D Printing. But, they had No Clue as to what they were talking about - so that's why I called in with some input. Afterwards - I contacted the station - and they had NO Problem getting me an MP3 file of segment where I called in. So - even a TV station may be willing to do the same - especially if the content of the show is about your Dog!

There's a radio show I like to listen to but it's on a 1am. So I have a cron job on my server to record the stream.

What I would really like to do is automatically remove the adverts - it's not on the BBC :-)

I was thinking about a program that detects repeating segments and removes them. Some ads would sneak in but the second time they aired they would be detected.

Not sure how feasible this is but it's an interesting programming project!

Well, after all of that, the station *did* put the segment on their website:

-- http://www.fox9.com/good-day/212638410-story

Oh, well, I have a new toy to play with! I appreciate your help very much, as always. You all Rock. Seriously.

Ken

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On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Ted Roche tedroche@gmail.com wrote:

Snazzy hat, Ken.

Thanks! I like hats. I have lots of them. My dearest one likes them somewhat less (or at least the *number* of hats I have).

Thanks for watching. Weird to have a celebrity dog....

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Are you using the backup over FTP functionality of SyncBack Ken? It's not clear from your post.

Maybe you could use Macrium Reflect Free on each computer to run a scheduled image job to a shared location on the storage PC? Are they all on the same LAN?

Ken, Used Syncpack Pro for years and currently on 4TB usb drive backing up from network with no problems using mirror copy on Windows 10 host.

I must admit the pre copy scan takes some time for large folders but it always works with no problems.

Have you had a look at Teracopy (Freeware) or Microsoft's own Richcopy (Free).

Dave

-----Original Message----- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ken McGinnis Sent: 21 October 2016 00:39 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] Need SyncBackSE alternative

I learned about SyncBackSE on this list years ago and have been using it successfully.

However, I have been moving my backups to 5TB drives and SyncBack cannot handle it. Yes, it does work with large drives; the problem is that stupid (my opinion of course) need to 'scan' the drives before even starting the copy/mirror. I often get an error that stops the program related to 'out of memory' during the scan. My main backup system is a ASUS Win10 computer with 16GB memory and 52 TB of storage internally and on external drives. It seems to me that should be enough memory for a computer that is used primarily for backing up drives on other computers on the network. The other issue is the failure to be able to email a log and access a FTP server if I am using the Win10 built in administrator (I won't tell you my opinion about M$ decision to have 2 levels of Admin) Note that Filezilla client can access the FTP server with no problem regardless of the login so I know there is no problem with the credentials or FTP server or internet access.

I found mention about WinSCP in my notes and I see that I tried it in 2014 and decided not to use it (I don't remember why not?)

Anyone have any suggestions?

Xcopy, of course, handles any drive any size but does not have some options that are important to me.

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