Kevin's right. If you want top-notch sites, a purchased template is orders of magnitude better.

Some sites are fine to get by with the templates bundled with WP. They have gotten MUCH better over the years.

A caution not to pick up sketchy "free" templates from random websites: they often contain questionable marketware, malwware or other means of making money (like cryptomining) at the expense of your clients.

If the clients are interested in SEO or running their own store, taking donations or managing membership, there are subsystems for that, but the price goes up.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Kevin Cully kcully@cullytechnologies.com wrote:

I know you said "Free", but I really recommend purchasing website templates from a site such as http://templatemonster.com as it saves you hours and hours of time. I can purchase a template on sale for about $40. For that little fee, it will give me a responsive design and I end up with a website that looks like a million$. Yes, you can choose a regular website, but I often purchase a WordPress template to gain the benefits that Ted mentioned. You're not tied into a hosting package and you can host (almost) anywhere.

If you are comfortable with Photoshop (or The Gimp) and HTML editing, it's worth saving hours of my life for this little amount of money.

HTH.

-Kevin

On 07/17/2018 01:52 PM, Ted Roche wrote:

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WordPress. Free or very cheap hosting on a number of sites, lots of free templates, many free add-ons, lots of room for expansion.

Did I mention free?

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 1:23 PM, John Weller john@johnweller.co.uk wrote:

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I have built and maintain a few very simple websites for some one-man businesses and local charities using Front Page 2003. I have now moved over to a Mac with Win 10 on Bootcamp (when it works - Win 10 sucks!) but would like to use a suitable Mac product. I know there are some Mac users out there :-). Can anyone recommend a very simple web design software similar to Front Page, ideally low-cost as I don’t make any money out of these websites.

Thanks

John

John Weller 01380 723235 07976393631

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I’ve used Elegant Themes before. Pretty good products. Good support.

I also use ThemeForest to find good WordPress themes and I’ve had good success there. Just stick to those themes with higher sales counts.

Paul

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On Jul 18, 2018, at 3:40 AM, Dave Crozier DaveC@Flexipol.co.uk wrote:

Elegant Themes do an addin for Wordpress called DIVI and I have used it a lot. It allows fully responsive sites that look very professional and it is just simple to use with loads of tutorials etc. Most impressive with a thriving active responsive user group.

Not free but very cheap.

https://www.elegantthemes.com/gallery/divi/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoeS3yp-o3AIVBb...

Dave

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WordPress. Free or very cheap hosting on a number of sites, lots of free templates, many free add-ons, lots of room for expansion.

Did I mention free?

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On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 1:23 PM, John Weller john@johnweller.co.uk wrote: I have built and maintain a few very simple websites for some one-man businesses and local charities using Front Page 2003. I have now moved over to a Mac with Win 10 on Bootcamp (when it works - Win 10 sucks!) but would like to use a suitable Mac product. I know there are some Mac users out there :-). Can anyone recommend a very simple web design software similar to Front Page, ideally low-cost as I don’t make any money out of these websites.

Thanks

John

John Weller 01380 723235 07976393631

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Many thanks to all who responded - I’m constantly amazed by the breadth of knowledge and willingness to help in the Profox community. I don’t think I made myself sufficiently clear in my original post, I’m looking for a tool which will enable me to edit and update existing sites created with Front Page, not necessarily free but certainly low-cost. It appears that Amaya or Kompozer will probably do the job. I will investigate further, however the discussion on Wordpress has inspired me to re-write these sites using Wordpress in the fullness of time when I have finally got my head round the Mac :-)

Thanks again

John

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+1 for WordPress. Very easy but also customizable and lots of templates.

Eric

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Charles Hart Enzer, M.D. cenzer@gmail.com wrote:

To keep it simple -- especially not know HTML 5, Java, and such like -- use a What You See Is What You Get and check the coding here for free:

• https://validator.w3.org/
• https://validator.w3.org/nu/

*Shai / שי Charles Hart Enzer, M.D., FAACAP* *Aliyah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliyah: Cincinnati to Jerusalem http://www.gojerusalem.com/items/263/German-Colony/'s German Colony https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Colony,_Jerusalem May, 2017*

*Volunteer Associate Professor of PsychiatryUniversity of Cincinnati Medical CenterWebSite: **EnzerMD.com http://EnzerMD.com* *Publications* http://www.enzermd.com/CV.html

*The Love of Liberty is the Love of Others* *The Love of Power is the Love of Ourselves*

-- William Hazlitt, ~1819

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 8:23 PM, John Weller john@johnweller.co.uk wrote:

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I have built and maintain a few very simple websites for some one-man businesses and local charities using Front Page 2003. I have now moved over to a Mac with Win 10 on Bootcamp (when it works - Win 10 sucks!) but would like to use a suitable Mac product. I know there are some Mac

users

...

out there :-). Can anyone recommend a very simple web design software similar to Front Page, ideally low-cost as I don’t make any money out of these websites.

Thanks

John

John Weller 01380 723235 07976393631

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Yup, You are posting dynamic content on the internet, where all four billion users can interact with it. WordFence at a minimum for security plug-ins. I usually use several.

Users should not be admins; they add add sketchy plugins from random sites and get owned. As Me How I Know (tm).

Good passwords for users.

Minimize exposure: no comments unless you need them, for example.

Still and all, you get a professional-appearing templates, responsive design, basic SEO and a site the user can edit at a pretty reasonable price. I've used it for several not-obvious-they-are-blogs websites my clients maintain.

Me, I prefer to design websites with ViM. (But I have a blog, too!)

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 4:54 PM, Kevin Cully kcully@cullytechnologies.com wrote:

Let me throw in a "+1 with extreme caution" for WordPress.

Pros:

1. Flexibility

2. Ease in maintaining content

3. Multiple authors can contribute content

4. Healthy plugin community

Cons:

1. As the #1 blogging platform, your site will constantly be under attack.

Patch. Patch plugins.

2. Performance can be an issue. Content is pulled from a database and can be

slower than a static site. However, there are plugins that help with this (Who knew!?!) where they cache the pages and make the site faster.

3. Editing of advanced / responsive templates still require an experts

touch. That's you!

4. If your site gets hacked, it can take a bit to get everything back. Yes,

there is a plugin that will help you with site backups and might be the fastest way to get a site back after a hack.

$0.02.

-Kevin

On 07/17/2018 03:35 PM, Eric Selje wrote:

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+1 for WordPress. Very easy but also customizable and lots of templates.

Eric

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Charles Hart Enzer, M.D. cenzer@gmail.com wrote:

...

To keep it simple -- especially not know HTML 5, Java, and such like -- use a What You See Is What You Get and check the coding here for free:

- https://validator.w3.org/
- https://validator.w3.org/nu/

*Shai / שי Charles Hart Enzer, M.D., FAACAP* *Aliyah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliyah: Cincinnati to Jerusalem http://www.gojerusalem.com/items/263/German-Colony/'s German Colony https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Colony,_Jerusalem May, 2017*

*Volunteer Associate Professor of PsychiatryUniversity of Cincinnati Medical CenterWebSite: **EnzerMD.com http://EnzerMD.com* *Publications* http://www.enzermd.com/CV.html

*The Love of Liberty is the Love of Others* *The Love of Power is the Love of Ourselves*

-- William Hazlitt, ~1819

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 8:23 PM, John Weller john@johnweller.co.uk wrote:

...

I have built and maintain a few very simple websites for some one-man businesses and local charities using Front Page 2003. I have now moved over to a Mac with Win 10 on Bootcamp (when it works - Win 10 sucks!) but would like to use a suitable Mac product. I know there are some Mac

users

...

out there :-). Can anyone recommend a very simple web design software similar to Front Page, ideally low-cost as I don’t make any money out of these websites.

Thanks

John

John Weller 01380 723235 07976393631

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