On 05/12/2017 16:39, Ed Leafe wrote:

<snip> I prefer the much more relatable visualization of the different levels:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bw-NkNDCcAAatyf.png

I think on that diagram you need to take out Soda and substitute it for Beer. Also note that cheese is a given on a pizza, which IMHO is correct. Got a weird friend who doesn't like cheese and tries to get his pizzas with none!

Peter

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On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Ed Leafe ed@leafe.com wrote:

On Dec 5, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Stephen Russell srussell705@gmail.com wrote:

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If so which service and what tools are you liking so far?

"The Cloud" – one of the most ill-defined terms ever.

There are several layers at which you interact with cloud resources, typically called *aaS. Examples: IaaS (Infrastructure as a Service), SaaS (Software as a Service), and PaaS (Platform as a Service). A good graphic depicting the differences is here:

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-637bb1028c20355020dc6bc9dc4c783a-c

I prefer the much more relatable visualization of the different levels:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bw-NkNDCcAAatyf.png

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I agree Ed that cloud is a misnomer. I have heard that we are going to a SaaS and the vendor is responsible for everything. That scares me big time, in that too many issues come up that require us to reset services or reboot the whole ERP maybe every other month at worst. In reality, we have locks set in one system because of human operation of closing the order to move it to Warehousing. Our Logistics service may want to tell us what carrier to use and the record in SO is already closed. Or we are printing checks/invoices and a print job fails to close completely grabbing 25% of cpu in a failed operation that needs to be manually cleaned on the server.

I was looking at defining our DW in our own separate cloud and identify an ION pump to push nightly updates there. This secondary cloud will probably be AZURE because everything we have was built in SQL Server and Analysis Services

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Ted Roche tedroche@gmail.com wrote:

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Stephen Russell srussell705@gmail.com wrote:

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We are being pushed hard to jump to the cloud and

I'm in a fog most days; does that count?

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Dilly Dilly!

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We need to populate our DW that mingles all 5 of our companies in the ERP into an easy digest series of cubes. That is one of our Oh How are we going to do this.....

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Paul H. Tarver paul@tpcqpc.com wrote:

The inability to acquire a direct connection to a database is severely limiting in a thousand ways. It great affects my core business and forces us to find ways to use standard reports saved to files for processing or if possible custom exports to discrete export files if exporting is even allowed in the ERP. God forbid, the erp that only saves reports as PDF files.

I fear this will be a bigger and bigger issue going forward unless something changes.

Can you get VPN access to the server data via the cloud provider? I have seen some that make that option available (with an additional fee, of course).

Paul H. Tarver Email: paul@tpcqpc.com

-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Russell Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 10:32 AM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: [NF] Anyone working within the cloud?

If so which service and what tools are you liking so far?

We are being pushed hard to jump to the cloud and I don't know how we are goig to do a lot of the necessary things around the ERP that we do. We are told it is a SaaS experience and we are disconnected from a direct db hookup. There is a tool they wrote, ION, and we will have to work through that.

Happy Happy Joy Joy!

Not sure how we are going to roll our pricing update at the end of each month. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Analyst Ring Container Technology Oakland TN

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We have end users that love dashboards and others who do understand that the cube has the pre-joined data they need. That cube user is at least 35-50% of our users of data.

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 11:47 AM, AndyHC andy@hawthorncottage.com wrote:

....and you really have end-users that understand cubes?

On 05-Dec-2017 10:34 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:

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We need to populate our DW that mingles all 5 of our companies in the ERP into an easy digest series of cubes. That is one of our Oh How are we going to do this.....

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