< To me the value is not so much in VFP, but in the intelligence accumulated (capitalized) into the software along the years, what finance people call 'intangible'.>
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Paul H. Tarver Email: paul@tpcqpc.com
-----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Thierry Nivelet Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 2:00 AM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] learn more about what you hate so much.
To me the value is not so much in VFP, but in the intelligence accumulated (capitalized) into the software along the years, what finance people call 'intangible'. That's where the value really is, as we've written this back in 2010 (http://foxincloud.com/why.php).
Balmer betting on a 'savior' technology back in the early 2000' just forgot that 20 years of accumulated value could certainly not be rebuilt in 5 or even 10 years.
That's why we created FoxInCloud, to offer a bridge across technologies that would preserve this accumulated value.
We're now thinking of machine learning: how FoxInCloud can learn from seeing the application running on the Web to build a reprogramming canvass under a REST technology such as Angular: under each user event, what data is needed and what control needs refresh, which model/view/controller are needed and which one can be shared across events.
The idea behind is that the visible part of the application (the GUI) properly reflects how the business needs to interact with the outside world's events and the data, and this should be preserved regardless of the underlying technology. And there must be a way to implement this invisible part in a different technology.
Thierry Nivelet FoxInCloud Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud http://foxincloud.com/
Le 06/10/2017 à 04:37, Paul H. Tarver a écrit :
I can confirm this situation. I wrote a very complex, custom management system with VFP back office which synced to a Java based public web system sitting on top of a FirebirdSQL database.
After 15 years with at least 6 different programmers trying to re-write my system they are still using all of my programming and in spite of them not doing business with me for at least 8 of those years that old workhorse built on VFP just keeps humming along.
No idea how much they've spent trying to replace that system but so far nothing beats the Fox.
Paul
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On Oct 5, 2017, at 2:43 PM, Kevin Cully kcully@cullytechnologies.com wrote:
I worked for a company that produced Real Estate software for the commercial side of things. We had a national client that said they were leaving our product to develop a new .NET solution with another company.
They returned after 1.5 years and after spending $2.1M. They started asking us for enhancements again. Ouch.
I'm figure throwing away a working system *may* work, but most likely it's an expensive lesson to someone.
On 10/05/2017 01:25 PM, Bill Anderson wrote: Kevin,
At our user group we were told by a Microsoft representative (well known to the Fox community) that Dell was throwing away all their internal applications **sight unseen** to rewrite them in the beta version of .NET 1.0.
I wonder how that turned out?
Bill Anderson
For 20 years now, Microsoft has been telling me that I've been developing
with an inferior tool and that .NET is better. Is it ready now?<<
On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 6:45 AM, Kevin Cully kcully@cullytechnologies.com wrote:
For 20 years now, Microsoft has been telling me that I've been developing with an inferior tool and that .NET is better. Is it ready now?
I think I'll stick with Foxpro and now Xojo for developing business solutions.
I don't hate .NET. I'm just going to continue to ignore it.
On 10/04/2017 11:01 AM, Stephen Russell wrote:
This is the 2017 .NET Conference Keynote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yecu4g5JYB8
It has morphed from the .NET you all hated so much 15 years ago. They show working in Chrome and not Bing.
the beginning goes over NuGet if you are unfamiliar with posting packages to it.
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