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Re: [NF] Restart now or later?
by Stephen Russell 08 Dec '17

08 Dec '17

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Ken Dibble <krdibble(a)stny.rr.com> wrote: > > However, even third party SW can have flaws in its SW! Right? >> > > As I said in the other thread on this topic: Experts recommend that people > should not rely on a single product, no matter who makes it, >> >> >> ------------------- You shoudl talk to more ERP vendors for a different opinion. hahahahaha -- Stephen Russell Sr. Analyst Ring Container Technology Oakland TN 901.246-0159 cell --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---

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Re: [NF] Restart now or later?
by Kurt at VR-FX 08 Dec '17

08 Dec '17

Ken - when you mentioned the "other thread" - I thought you were referring to MY recent thread. But, upon filtering - I didn't see a reply from you on that thread. However, I just searched your name in my inbox & found the BitDefender thread. I didn't read that particular thread - since I had never heard of that app before. So - I'm going to read thru that thread now. Funny - since we currently have 3 recent threads all discussing about the same topic. -K- On 12/8/2017 11:27 AM, Ken Dibble wrote: > >> However, even third party SW can have flaws in its SW! Right? > > As I said in the other thread on this topic: Experts recommend that > people should not rely on a single product, no matter who makes it, > for anti-malware protection. Every product behaves differently and > catches some threats while missing others. My statement in this thread > was what I tell people when they ask me if they should just rely on > Windows Defender. > > Note that I also said in the other thread that you should have > multiple products installed and use them for manual scans. You should > only have ONE *real-time scanner* running at any given time. > > Ken > >> And - since this thread is bringing up issues w/Malware protection - >> and I had started another thread about malware - maybe its a good >> time to ask. What DO People use to protect against Malware? And, is >> MalWareBytes the best protection against MalWare?? >> >> -K- >> >> >> On 12/8/2017 10:07 AM, Ken Dibble wrote: >>> Meanwhile, other links say this is an issue with the Windows >>> "Malware Protection Engine"--Windows Defender. >>> >>> The reason why Windows Defender isn't good enough is because it is >>> manufactured by the same company that makes the OSes that it's >>> supposed to protect. It is likely dependent on code in those OSes, >>> and if there are flaws in that code, then there will be flaws in >>> Windows Defender. >>> >>> That is the explanation I give people when I am asked if they should >>> rely on Windows Defender instead of using third-party malware >>> protection. >>> >>> Now I have actual data to back me up. >> >> [excessive quoting removed by server]

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Re: [NF] Restart now or later?
by Kurt at VR-FX 08 Dec '17

08 Dec '17

Years ago, when it was called Essentials - the anti-virus SW by M$ - the question was raised here. It may have been me that asked it. But, the idea was that - since M$ makes the OS - then, in Theory - they are also the best ones to be able to Protect that OS from attacks. But, now you're saying just the opposite. However, I see what you mean. If there are flaws in the OS - and protection SW is based upon parts of the OS - then there will be flaws in the virus or malware protection. However, even third party SW can have flaws in its SW! Right? And - since this thread is bringing up issues w/Malware protection - and I had started another thread about malware - maybe its a good time to ask. What DO People use to protect against Malware? And, is MalWareBytes the best protection against MalWare?? -K- On 12/8/2017 10:07 AM, Ken Dibble wrote: > Meanwhile, other links say this is an issue with the Windows "Malware > Protection Engine"--Windows Defender. > > The reason why Windows Defender isn't good enough is because it is > manufactured by the same company that makes the OSes that it's > supposed to protect. It is likely dependent on code in those OSes, and > if there are flaws in that code, then there will be flaws in Windows > Defender. > > That is the explanation I give people when I am asked if they should > rely on Windows Defender instead of using third-party malware protection. > > Now I have actual data to back me up.

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[NF] DB Code reuse anyone?
by Stephen Russell 08 Dec '17

08 Dec '17

Stored Procedures by a better name. Write it once there and call if from your app as needed. Learn how to use params as well in this simple introduction. https://www.mssqltips.com/sqlservertutorial/168/different-options-for-creat… -- Stephen Russell Sr. Analyst Ring Container Technology Oakland TN 901.246-0159 cell --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---

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Re: [NF] Restart now or later?
by Ken Dibble 08 Dec '17

08 Dec '17

>Windows is shipping new updates early this month. In the latest >"Windows 10 Fall Creators Edition Update" version, they now have a >pretty panel and call them "Feature Updates" rather than bug fixes, >but you know what that means. > >Info on the Windows Security Site [1] seems to indicate it's a fix for >many of their security products. That, combined with the week-early >date, make me suspect something's in the wild they don't want people >to catch. "Ask Woody" has a post at 8:30 am his time today referencing CVE-2017-11937. He promises a fuller post later on ComputerWorld. Meanwhile, other links say this is an issue with the Windows "Malware Protection Engine"--Windows Defender. The reason why Windows Defender isn't good enough is because it is manufactured by the same company that makes the OSes that it's supposed to protect. It is likely dependent on code in those OSes, and if there are flaws in that code, then there will be flaws in Windows Defender. That is the explanation I give people when I am asked if they should rely on Windows Defender instead of using third-party malware protection. Now I have actual data to back me up. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org

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Check my wording on this and tell me if I'm right
by mbsoftwaresolutions＠mbsoftwaresolutions.com 08 Dec '17

08 Dec '17

Client's app performance is dreadfully slow, and I believe the Server is largely responsible. Dealing with a former PITA Corporate tech support team who doesn't know jack squat about VFP and is telling me how it works, especially on the application that I worked on from 2007 to 2010 and was never updated after I left. They probably can't even spell FoxPro. VFP9SP1 application running on client's workstation, using VFP free tables on network share folder managed by Stonefield Database Toolkit. Workstations are Win10 Pro. Server is Windows 2008 Standard. On the server, they've got Windows Defender *AND* an outdated Symantec Endpoint on there that hasn't been updated since 2015 (https://www.screencast.com/t/n5dYLWF0) I also wanted them to add the relevant VFP exclusions in Windows Defender. They said they were there, and I showed here "no they're not." (https://www.screencast.com/t/6vioItlZSuu9) Corporate "engineering" said this, regarding the slowness: "It's a 32-bit OS so it can only utilize 4GB of RAM. Sym_data folder is almost 600MB, with the most common used features being the largest. The files are locked, transferred over the network and then updated and written back." It's the last part especially that has me fueled up to deliver a smack down. Here's what my Draft reply is to my former coworker Tim, who is the Tech who sent me the bullshit answer: ************************ As for this comment (and I'm sure you copied it from the Engineering folks, so I'm not saying that YOU TIM are incorrect): "It's a 32-bit OS so it can only utilize 4GB of RAM. Sym_data folder is almost 600MB, with the most common used features being the largest. The files are locked, transferred over the network and then updated and written back." -- Tim, the OS has nothing to do with it; 32-bit is fine, and Symplicity won't utilize that much RAM anyway. More important that needs correcting is this Engineering person's understanding of how the Symplicity application and database work; his/her comments about the entire 600MB of files being locked, transferred over the network, then updated and written back are wrong. The Symplicity application is a Visual FoxPro 9.0 SP2 application that uses a File Server database and unlike Access or some other types like that, it does NOT suck over the entire dataset but instead takes the CDX files (which are the index files) to read the relevant data from the network DBFs, only dealing with data requested in the application as needed. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about as you know I fixed the Symplicity application's major bugs from 2007 to 2010, something perhaps your Engineering folks don't know. And it was never updated after I released version 4.0 before I left in 2010. Nobody at your company before or now knows as much about that application and its abilities as I do. That's not arrogance; that's an obvious fact. ************************ So...I am right that the entire 600MB of VFP data files on the network share don't come down over the network, but instead the indexes do, right? I don't even think the DBF comes down--all the "locking" occurs on the file server. I'm betting heavily on this one. Am I right? Was my Access comment right? (Ok, maybe I was a bit arrogant there, but these dudes need to seriously be corrected.) tia! --Mike

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[NF] Client's workstation struggling (performance-wise)
by mbsoftwaresolutions＠mbsoftwaresolutions.com 08 Dec '17

08 Dec '17

(Sorry...forgot the [NF] subject prefix) We're hooking her up with a new machine next week, but I was curious because her current/old pc is an upgrade from something to Windows 10 Pro, and it stayed 32-bit, with 4GB of RAM, non-SSD hard drive. https://www.screencast.com/t/L5kB9hijhadn According to M$, she's got more than enough: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-specifications Anyhoo...was just curious. Like I said, she's getting a new machine next week. Here's what she's getting: ---------------- Fanless Mini PCs ---------------- Intel NUC NUC7i3BNK Mini PC/HTPC - Intel Dual-Core i3-7100U 2.4GHz - 8GB DDR4 - 256GB SSD M.2 (faster than SATA SSD) - Wifi, Bluetooth - 4k Support, Dual Monitor Capable (HDMI & Mini DisplayPort 1.2) - Windows 10 Professional - 1x USB 3.1 Type-C, 4x USB 3.0 - 1x Headphone/Microphone Combo Jack We've used many styles of fanless Mini-PCs before. Here are the advantages I see: - Small - Less shipping - No fans (fans collect dust, bearings go bad) - M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 storage is faster that SATA SSD - No rotational drive - Less heat - Less power consumption - External power supply can be replaced by the end user, by simply plugging in a new one, without having to disassemle the PC, plug in hard drives, motherboard, fans, etc... I can't wait to see how much better it is.

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Re: [NF] Free Windows 10 Book by Woody Leonhard
by Ted Roche 07 Dec '17

07 Dec '17

Re: déshabillé -- had to look that one up ;) On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Ken Dibble <krdibble(a)stny.rr.com> wrote: > Woody Leonhard of "Ask Woody" and "Woody on Windows" is my go-to guy for > current information on the relative state of deshabille of various MS > operating systems. Want to know what you're risking by leaving automatic > updates on? He's the guy. > > He's also written a book on Windows 10, and his publisher is offering it as > a free PDF download. You can find out how to get it here: > > https://www.askwoody.com/ > > Ken Dibble > www.stic-cil.org > > [excessive quoting removed by server]

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Issue with _cliptext
by Paul Newton 07 Dec '17

07 Dec '17

Hi all If I run the following code = Adbobjects(laTables, 'Table') = Asort(laTables) _Cliptext = "" * The array has 365 rows For lnTable = 1 To Alen(laTables) Use (Right(Juststem(loData),1) + "_" + laTables(lnTable)) _Cliptext = _Cliptext + Padr(laTables(lnTable),20) + Replicate(Chr(9),2) + Str(Reccount(),10,0) + Chr(13) Endfor ? MemLines(_Cliptext) * _Cliptext only has 357 lines But if I use a variable lcCliptext instead of _Cliptext all is well (lcCliptext has 365 lines). It is as if _Cliptext can't keep up ... Paul Newton

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[NF] Free Windows 10 Book by Woody Leonhard
by Ken Dibble 07 Dec '17

07 Dec '17

Woody Leonhard of "Ask Woody" and "Woody on Windows" is my go-to guy for current information on the relative state of deshabille of various MS operating systems. Want to know what you're risking by leaving automatic updates on? He's the guy. He's also written a book on Windows 10, and his publisher is offering it as a free PDF download. You can find out how to get it here: https://www.askwoody.com/ Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org

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