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FoxBin2Prg Form.Property = "" becomes .F.
by Tracy Pearson 02 Apr '20

02 Apr '20

I have just recently started to use FoxBin2Prg to store my VCX and SCX files as text versions in Git. Some of my forms have properties set to a have nothing in it. VFP displays this as "(none)". When I use FoxBin2Prg to put this particular form in to the SC2 form, the back to the SCX form this property becomes a .F. Just putting this out there for those that might use this tool. Tracy

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Re: String Reference to Object
by Gene Wirchenko 25 Feb '20

25 Feb '20

At 11:07 2018-02-15, Gene Wirchenko <genew(a)telus.net> wrote: >At 10:57 2018-02-15, "Fernando D. Bozzo" <fdbozzo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>To talk with an example, if you have this: >> >>oObj = createobject("custom") >>reference = "oObj" >> >>The you have at least 3 options: >> >>1) The way you know => &reference..referredto >> >>2) Using evaluate => =Evaluate(reference + ".referredto") >> >>3) My preferred: Caching the object and then using it: >> >>oRef = Evaluate(reference) >>? oRef.refered1 >>? oRef.refered2 >>... > > I was hoping to avoid evaluate(), but your third way makes > sense. I will check if it works in all the contexts I am thinking > of. (I was using "object" and "reference" rather loosely.) Unfortunately, it does not work in my usual use case: as an alias. Example: use ccli where=evaluate("ccli") && Nope ? where.clcode Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko

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A FoxPro Transition @ UCLA...
by Kurt at VR-FX 31 Oct '19

31 Oct '19

Hello there folks, I'm looking to get some feedback from the hive mind of this group. And, I will admit, I'm doing this kind of last minute. Too many things going on lately, and I have not had a chance to do my true due diligence! Such as thorough research via prior postings in this forum. So as some of you may already know, I had a first interview for a programmer job at UCLA. The second interview is coming up, it's supposed to be this Thursday, but I might try to postpone until Friday. Too much stuff going on in my life lately, including doing 2 different part time jobs and an extended relative who passed away recently, that's the reason I'm going down to LA for an in-person interview, since the last interview I did via Skype. It looks like UCLA really wants to move away from Foxpro, as they know it's a dead language. But, they want to move to something similar to VFP. I suspect its also because the 1 and only programmer there, who's been there for like 30 years and may be retiring soon - doesn't want to learn something Totally new. And, also wants to minimize the transition! They are asking me to propose what I think is the best option. They have mentioned several options such as Fox-in-Cloud, the Alpha software, and even Servoy. They did not bring up things like Lianja, XoJo, or X# the open source X-base language. I know that Fox-in-Cloud even offers a type of Conversion Assistant - which looks really Great! But, once its converted and running in the cloud - I'm assuming that making updates to the system actually means programming in something that is not actually FoxPro - as I think its Javascript & HTML. But, I could be wrong - and am sure Thierry will correct me. There was also some recent discussion on X# which looked like a potentially great option. But, I heard that via the last posting - the FoxPro version of the code wasn't really ready yet! They also told me that they have already been working with Alpha SW - and in discussions with them for several months. Which makes me think they are already leaning towards Alpha. A quick review of old postings in this forum did not show a lot of discussion or users of Alpha. It would really be great to hear from some Alpha users! Anyway - any and all input would be greatly appreciated. I've seen Numerous discussions about a number of these technologies here in the forum over the years. But, honestly - I never truly got involved with any of them - until NOW! Regards, Kurt

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[NF] Migrating Skills From Foxpro to Xojo
by Paul H. Tarver 29 Jul '19

29 Jul '19

I hijacked the original thread with a reply changing the subject and adding an [NF] flag to the subject because a small comment Kevin made caused me chase a different rabbit for a little bit. I have reviewed Xojo on a couple of different occasions over the past few years and I have tried to work my way through the book that was written to teach people how to program it and I find myself drifting by the 3rd or 4th chapter every time. Not a fault of the author; just rather a fault of me wanting something a little more advanced. Anyway, I've run into a couple of hurdles with trying to learn Xojo and perhaps someone here has some suggestions to help me out. Try not to laugh at what may be very dumb questions! :) 1) I build a lot of similar but customized apps using a shared library of tools I've developed over the past 25 years. Every app I build contains a LOT of forms, reports and programs shared by all my applications as well as a lot of forms, reports and programs which are copied from previous projects and then customized for the current client. While I have seen multiple Xojo advocates confirm a similar process is possible, but I cannot find clear explanations of how to make that happen. 2) Every Foxpro application I build starts with a .PRG which reads a configuration .INI file and then setups up the environment, displays a splash screen, checks my version numbers, calls a database update process if a version change is detected and if all is good, it displays the main screen for the user. Once the user chooses to exit my application, a shutdown process is initiated and everything is closed in an orderly way. That having been said, I have been unable to find source code to a simple, complete Xojo application or instruction book that can walk me through the start to finish logic and firing order of all the start-up and shut-down events and allow me to compare that to the process I'm so familiar with in Foxpro. 3) Are there any good white-papers or books by Foxpro programmers that can provide insights into translating my Foxpro knowledge and skill directly into Xojo. I use Foxpro on a daily basis for my business because I cannot find a language that satisfies my clients' needs the way Foxpro does. I would love to be able to say I have a backup language like Xojo, but I get only so far before I give up and go back to what I know and love. So let's assume Kevin is correct when he states Xojo is " a viable language for VFP developers" because I do not want to go down the rabbit hole of considering all the other alternatives for this sake of this discussion and share with me any tips that can help me understand Xojo on a higher level beyond just creating a simple form. I want to understand Xojo at a Complete Deliverable Application level and talk about mimicking the features I depend upon in Foxpro to share a library of tools, forms and code across hundreds of similar custom applications. Paul H. Tarver -----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kevin J Cully Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:11 AM To: profoxtech(a)leafe.com Subject: RE: false news.... Well, a lot of that article is correct, even though I don't want it to be. VFP as a *language* is as secure as the programmer programmed it to be. VFP as a *database* isn't secure itself. You can encrypt fields. You can encrypt the directory that the data is stored in. But DBF data isn't secure. You wouldn't store social security numbers or credit card numbers in Excel spreadsheets, right? I've haven't recommended DBFs for storage for over a decade now. There are better storage mechanisms such as Postgres, MariaDB, and even SQLite which can be set up as an encrypted database. VFP as a language is still valid, although it will never be able to create 64bit applications but that is a different subject. [Insert Xojo plug here as a viable language for VFP developers.] I had a potential client where they based their primary keys based on employee Social Security Numbers. They didn't like it when I told them that they'd need a complete rewrite. Notice this would have been the case no matter what language/technology they were using. It was just piss poor design. It appears from the article, that when the vendor was notified of the situation, that they were able to quickly address it although the article didn't say what that solution was. Probably encrypted the field? Hash the field with an external secured table containing the sensitive data? Who knows. To me, that's a win. Hopefully the vendor contacts all customers notifying them that there is a vulnerability and that there is a solution available. As Ted Roche always says "Security is a process". -Kevin -----Original Message----- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 6:07 AM To: 'ProFox Email List' <profox(a)leafe.com> Subject: VFP: false news.... Ignorance and stupidity still runs in the so-called “expert consultant” fraternity. “An outdated software that is used by about 200 Vermont municipalities and the Vermont Tax Department has long contained flaws that exposed sensitive information including Social Security numbers, according to an IT consultant and the software company’s founder.” “You could make a strong case that Visual FoxPro shouldn’t be used on a government level,” Johnson said. https://vtdigger.org/2019/02/05/consultant-outdated-software-left-worker-in… Thankfully the software owners realise that it isn’t a fault in VFP, it is a fault in the designing of the infrastructure. Expert: Ex - Out of date Spurt – a drip under pressure!! 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Southwest Fox 2019: Registration opens
by Rick Schummer 31 May '19

31 May '19

Registration for Southwest Fox (http://www.swfox.net/register.aspx) is now available. See http://www.swfox.net/speakers.aspx for a list of speakers and http://www.swfox.net/sessionsswfox.aspx for a list of sessions. Super-Saver Registration, which saves you $125, is available only through June 30th, so don't wait. We also let you pick a free pre-con if you register by June 30th. Putting on a conference is a risky endeavor. Conference centers require a guaranteed minimum income to block the dates of a conference; for a conference like Southwest Fox, that minimum is in the tens of thousands of dollars. We have to commit to the conference center by July 2nd and need your support by July 1st to make that commitment. We will not send out any "We need your help" appeals so please do not wait; register by June 30th! We know most of you like to wait until the last minute to avoid the credit card bill arriving too soon. We will not charge any attendee credit cards or cash any checks until we have committed to going forward (sometime after July 2), so this is not is a reason to wait. We look forward to seeing you in October! Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com

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[NF] Locked T-Mobile Phone
by Charles Hart Enzer, M.D. 31 May '19

31 May '19

Today, I restored to service my old Galaxy S5. This T-mobile phone is locked. It worked fine before. Two weeks ago, I got a new phone. I put in the S5 SIM. Yesterday, the new phone was stolen. I locked it on Google and bought a new SIM card They blocked the SIM in the new phone. When I put new SIM in the old S5, the message read: no SIM, put in a SIM. The phone was locked -- when connected to WiFi, however, the S5 can scan the Web. *Shai / שי **Charles Hart Enzer, MD(Ohio, USA), FAACAP* *Aliyah <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliyah>: Cincinnati to Jerusalem <http://www.gojerusalem.com/items/263/German-Colony/>'s German Colony <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Colony,_Jerusalem> May, 2017* *Volunteer Associate Professor of PsychiatryUniversity of Cincinnati Medical CenterWebSite: **EnzerMD.com <http://EnzerMD.com>* *Publications* <http://www.enzermd.com/CV.html#Publications> *Tiny Country, Huge Dreams* *ארץ זעירה, **חלומות ענקיים* *עם ישראל חי* --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---

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Re: Converting an SCX to a PRG in batch mode
by Koen Piller 30 May '19

30 May '19

Scctext is a procedure from VFP a better newer version you cam get on github. Koen Op do 30 mei 2019 om 20:48 schreef Gene Wirchenko <gene(a)shaw.ca> > At 07:07 2019-05-30, "Tracy Pearson" <tracy(a)powerchurch.com> wrote: > > [snip] > > > DO (HOME() + 'scctextx') WITH cHome + cForm + > >"."+cExt,cLetter,cHome + cForm + ".txt",.t. > > What is this program scctextx, please, and where can I get it? > > [snip] > > Sincerely, > > Gene Wirchenko > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > [excessive quoting removed by server]

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Converting an SCX to a PRG in batch mode
by wes.wilson＠yahoo.com 30 May '19

30 May '19

Is there a way to convert a group of SCXs into PRGs in batch mode? I need to do 400 of them. Google did not help. Thanks,Wes Wes Wilson, President ERW Custom Programming, Inc. Crescent Lake Plaza 5459 Elizabeth Lake Rd. Waterford, MI 48327 (248) 683-4182 LinkedIn Profile "Companies pay too much attention to the cost of doing something. They should worry more about the cost of not doing it" Philip Kotler www.erw.com wes(a)erw.com On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 1:50:23 AM EDT, <profox-request(a)leafe.com> wrote: Send ProFox mailing list submissions to profox(a)leafe.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to profox-request(a)leafe.com You can reach the person managing the list at profox-owner(a)leafe.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ProFox digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: [NF] Cursing Microsoft for dialog boxes that will not expand in any direction in Word 2016 (MB Software Solutions, LLC) 2. Re: [NF] Cursing Microsoft for dialog boxes that will not expand in any direction in Word 2016 (Kurt @ Gmail) 3. Re: ? Cross tabulation (Ted Roche) 4. Re: ? Cross tabulation (Ted Roche) 5. Re: [NF] Cursing Microsoft for dialog boxes that will not expand in any direction in Word 2016 (Eric Selje) 6. Re: [NF] Cursing Microsoft for dialog boxes that will not expand in any direction in Word 2016 (MB Software Solutions, LLC) 7. Re: ? Cross tabulation (MB Software Solutions, LLC) 8. Re: Filtering Oddity (Gene Wirchenko) 9. Re: Filtering Oddity (Gene Wirchenko) 10. Re: Filtering Oddity (Gene Wirchenko) 11. Re: [NF] Cursing Microsoft for dialog boxes that will not expand in any direction in Word 2016 (Gene Wirchenko) 12. Re: Filtering Oddity (AndyHC) 13. Re: [NF] Cursing Microsoft for dialog boxes that will not expand in any direction in Word 2016 (Kurt @ Gmail) Ouch...that gives me a headache just trying to decipher that! On 5/21/2019 4:36 AM, Johan Nel wrote: > And straight from the .NET runtime, the culprit is.... drum > rolling...... BestFitMapping = false :-) > > [DllImport("user32.dll", BestFitMapping = false, CharSet = > CharSet.Auto, SetLastError = true)] > [SuppressUnmanagedCodeSecurity] > [SecurityCritical] > public static extern int MessageBox(HandleRef hWnd, string text, > string caption, int type); > > On 2019/05/20 23:52, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: >> GRRRRRR!!!!! I've got a colossal cleanup to do with bookmark >> references and this freaking window refuses to enlarge in any >> direction: https://www.screencast.com/t/PTDtv8bVI >> >> C'MON, M$!!! NOT TODAY!!!!! >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> [excessive quoting removed by server]

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From x# to .NET CORE anyone?
by Stephen Russell 29 May '19

29 May '19

This is about porting desktop apps to Core. What is .NET Core?.NET Core is a cross platform, open source re-implementation of the .NETFramework. https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/porting-desktop-apps-to-net-core/ Or how to get M$ code running in an open source environment of your choice. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Analyst Ring Container Technology Oakland TN 901.246-0159 cell --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---

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[NF] What do you think of Microsoft?
by MB Software Solutions, LLC 28 May '19

28 May '19

Got this survey in email today: https://www.screencast.com/t/Ngn4iWC6H Was going to send it back with a Pro-Fox (get it...hahaha) message. lol --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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