ProFox May 2018

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Re: [NF] Let the meetings BEGIN.
by Paul H. Tarver 27 May '18

27 May '18

I'm pretty sure that there are companies that can justify remoting their ERP otherwise there wouldn't be so many that do it. I just have seen and heard too many horror stories to make it a regular recommendation for my clients. No offense to the marketing people (I am one so I can say this), sometimes the sizzle is far better than the steak. It sounds like you have your hands full as well as a pretty good idea of the value of the external tools you've developed in-house to support the base product. Just don't let anyone else undervalue any of those external tools! I'll love to hear more as you guys progress through this and in particular some of the work arounds you end up doing to replace the custom tools you've built. I think it would a fascinating thread. Also, I'm sure everyone in the group is willing to try to assist if you need help or to vent! Paul H. Tarver -----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Russell Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 3:17 PM To: profoxtech(a)leafe.com Subject: [SPAM-LOW] Re: [NF] Let the meetings BEGIN. That is why we are actively looking at what we get and what we lose if we go this route. Our ERP loves the fact that we run on razor blades for them all the F'n time and they charge us less for doing all their dirty work. I have a 4-year-old ERP system on that list. :( For us to keep the latest version of the ERP is important. It has been talk of the department for the last 7 years I have been working here. In this case of it being on their HW, they have updates happening monthly. AWS is the environment. On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 9:30 AM, Paul H. Tarver <paul(a)tpcqpc.com> wrote: > There have been more than one of my clients who make the move to the cloud > only to find that key functionality that is required for their business to > function properly is lost. This might be due to loss of direct access to > their data, or worse, the cloud version of the ERP isn't nearly as complete > or mature as the self-hosted product. Either way, it costs way more than > just time and money. Sanity and common sense are often victims as well. > > No one has ever been able to satifactorily explain to me why remote hosting > your data on a server you do not control, in a place where you do not have > physical access, managed by people you did not hire, connected via a > service > provided by a third party provider with crappy customer service and paid > for > on a monthly fee basis was EVER a good idea for ANY business regardless of > the "benefits". > > Seems to me, it's like putting your data into a nursing home, trusting the > staff to feed and care for your data properly and hoping they keep your > data > in good shape so you can visit it once in a while. > > Paul H. Tarver > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of > Stephen > Russell > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 3:53 PM > To: profoxtech(a)leafe.com > Subject: [NF] Let the meetings BEGIN. > > Our ERP vendor wants us to jump into the cloud in a multi-tenant data > environment. > > Sucks for us having written many applications that read that data and > present it to users to get things done that the ERP doesn't do today. > > Apply monthly price updates on items due to what the contract has for that > customer. We then write those updates back to the ERP as well as send out > a notification letter to every customer about price updates. > > When your data is in THIS cloud you give up the right to query it. Do they > give access to APIs to pull what we need? Well they will think about that > is what I thought I just heard. > > Happy Happy Joy Joy it looks like the next 2 quarters are going to be > learning how to waste time on phone calls. > > -- > Stephen Russell > Sr. Analyst > Ring Container Technology > Oakland TN > > 901.246-0159 cell > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > --- > [excessive quoting removed by server]

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[NF] FTP Client
by John Weller 25 May '18

25 May '18

I maintain a few very simple websites for some local charities. I have been using Filezilla for years to upload to them but have recently had a peculiar problem. I put the credentials for a new website into Site Manager and it refuses to logon but putting identical values into the quickconnect bar it logs on without a problem! I'm baffled but rather than spend more time on the issue than I already have I'm looking for a fresh FTP client so my question is - what do you guys recommend, ideally free - I'm a cheapskate :-). Thanks John John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631

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FoxPro, Shibboleth, and InConnect
by Eric Selje 25 May '18

25 May '18

Got a lot of new stuff thrown at me today. The gist is I need to authenticate an existing WConnect site to a client's enterprise ID system, which uses the Shibboleth ID Provider and some piece of middleware called InConnect. I've been reading up on a lot of this, but before I reinvent the wheel has anyone already gone down this road and have some guideposts for me? Thx, Eric --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---

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Re: [NF] Let the meetings BEGIN.
by Gene Wirchenko 25 May '18

25 May '18

At 01:15 2018-05-24, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke(a)fastmail.fm> wrote: >Why .. it's almost as if the cloud *isn't* the best solution for all >use cases. The computing industry could be very good for the were since there is no silver bullet. Sincerely, Gene "Howling at the Moon" Wirchenko

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Re: [NF] Let the meetings BEGIN.
by Gene Wirchenko 24 May '18

24 May '18

At 13:53 2018-05-23, Stephen Russell <srussell705(a)gmail.com> wrote: [snip] >Happy Happy Joy Joy it looks like the next 2 quarters are going to be >learning how to waste time on phone calls. You have been fortunate not to have had to learn this before. Welcome to the quagmire. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko

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RE: Fun with date calculations in VFP
by Gene Wirchenko 23 May '18

23 May '18

At 08:38 2018-05-22, "Paul H. Tarver" <paul(a)tpcqpc.com> wrote: >-----Original Message----- >From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Gene >Wirchenko >Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 9:03 PM >To: profoxtech(a)leafe.com >Subject: Re: Fun with date calculations in VFP > >At 12:31 2018-05-20, Ted Roche <tedroche(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 1:39 PM, Gene Wirchenko <genew(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > > > thedate=date(9999,12,31) && Handle this extreme case. > > > >And that, kids, is why we call it "The Y10K crisis..." > > It is not a crisis yet. You have to ignore it for some millennia yet. >I'm starting to feel the panic rise...No clients calling yet, but it's >coming... You have to ignore it for millennia, Paul! Show some professionality or unprofessionality or something. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko

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[NF] Python Programming Song
by Stephen Russell 23 May '18

23 May '18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UsKYsLSGpU -- Stephen Russell Sr. Analyst Ring Container Technology Oakland TN 901.246-0159 cell --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---

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RE: Microsoft Catch 22 RDP Update
by Ken Dibble 23 May '18

23 May '18

Thanks, Dave. Now if I can just figure out the logistics on this... >Ken, >No problems I can see so far on NIC/DHCP addressing or static IP's changing. > >Dave Crozier >Software Development Manager >Flexipol Packaging Ltd. > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >This communication and the information it contains is intended for >the person or organisation to whom it is addressed. Its contents are >confidential and may be protected in law. If you have received this >e-mail in error you must not copy, distribute or take any action in >reliance on it. Unauthorised use, copying or disclosure of any of it >may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please >notify us immediately by telephone or email. > >Flexipol Packaging Ltd. has taken every reasonable precaution to >minimise the risk of virus transmission through email and therefore >any files sent via e-mail will have been checked for known viruses. >However, you are advised to run your own virus check before opening any >attachments received as Flexipol Packaging Ltd will not in any event >accept any liability whatsoever once an e-mail and/or any attachment >is received. > >It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they have >adequate virus protection. > >Flexipol Packaging Ltd. >Unit 14 Bentwood Road >Carrs >Industrial Estate >Haslingden >Rossendale >Lancashire >BB4 5HH > >Tel:01706-222792 >Fax: 01706-224683 >www.Flexipol.co.uk >--------------------------------------------------------------- > >Terms & Conditions: > >Notwithstanding delivery and the passing of risk in the goods, the >property in the goods shall not pass to the buyer until the seller >Flexipol Packaging Ltd. ("The Company") has received in cash or >cleared funds payment in full of the price of the goods and all >other goods agreed to be sold by the seller to the buyer for which >payment is then due. Until such time as the property in the goods >passes to the buyer, the buyer shall hold the goods as the seller's >fiduciary agent and bailee and keep the goods separate from those of >the buyer and third parties and properly stored protected and >insured and identified as the seller's property but shall be >entitled to resell or use the goods in the ordinary course of its >business. Until such time as the property in the goods passes to the >buyer the seller shall be entitled at any time > >-----Original Message----- >From: ProFox <profox-bounces(a)leafe.com> On Behalf Of Ken Dibble >Sent: 22 May 2018 17:14 >To: profox(a)leafe.com >Subject: Re: Microsoft Catch 22 RDP Update > > > >Just had a 1 day full on panic here with the latest May 2018 update > >from Microsoft for Server 2008 and 2012. All the RDP (Remote > >desktop) sessions that used to connect now do NOT connect due to a > >change in the security settings on any client that has the latest > >Windows Updates. > > >Dave, I feel your pain. > >I've been following this issue, and waiting to see whether MS issued >a version of the patch that does not mess up NIC/DHCP addressing. > >Did you have any issues with losing static internal IP addresses or >NIC settings on Server 2008? > >Thanks. > >Ken Dibble >www.stic-cil.org > > > [excessive quoting removed by server]

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RE: Microsoft Catch 22 RDP Update
by Dave Crozier 23 May '18

23 May '18

Ken, No problems I can see so far on NIC/DHCP addressing or static IP's changing. Dave Crozier Software Development Manager Flexipol Packaging Ltd. --------------------------------------------------------------- This communication and the information it contains is intended for the person or organisation to whom it is addressed. Its contents are confidential and may be protected in law. If you have received this e-mail in error you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. Unauthorised use, copying or disclosure of any of it may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or email. Flexipol Packaging Ltd. has taken every reasonable precaution to minimise the risk of virus transmission through email and therefore any files sent via e-mail will have been checked for known viruses. However, you are advised to run your own virus check before opening any attachments received as Flexipol Packaging Ltd will not in any event accept any liability whatsoever once an e-mail and/or any attachment is received. It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they have adequate virus protection. Flexipol Packaging Ltd. Unit 14 Bentwood Road Carrs Industrial Estate Haslingden Rossendale Lancashire BB4 5HH Tel:01706-222792 Fax: 01706-224683 www.Flexipol.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------------- Terms & Conditions: Notwithstanding delivery and the passing of risk in the goods, the property in the goods shall not pass to the buyer until the seller Flexipol Packaging Ltd. ("The Company") has received in cash or cleared funds payment in full of the price of the goods and all other goods agreed to be sold by the seller to the buyer for which payment is then due. Until such time as the property in the goods passes to the buyer, the buyer shall hold the goods as the seller's fiduciary agent and bailee and keep the goods separate from those of the buyer and third parties and properly stored protected and insured and identified as the seller's property but shall be entitled to resell or use the goods in the ordinary course of its business. Until such time as the property in the goods passes to the buyer the seller shall be entitled at any time -----Original Message----- From: ProFox <profox-bounces(a)leafe.com> On Behalf Of Ken Dibble Sent: 22 May 2018 17:14 To: profox(a)leafe.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Catch 22 RDP Update >Just had a 1 day full on panic here with the latest May 2018 update >from Microsoft for Server 2008 and 2012. All the RDP (Remote >desktop) sessions that used to connect now do NOT connect due to a >change in the security settings on any client that has the latest >Windows Updates. Dave, I feel your pain. I've been following this issue, and waiting to see whether MS issued a version of the patch that does not mess up NIC/DHCP addressing. Did you have any issues with losing static internal IP addresses or NIC settings on Server 2008? Thanks. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: ProFox(a)leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/ ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

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Microsoft Catch 22 RDP Update
by Dave Crozier 22 May '18

22 May '18

Gentlemen, Just had a 1 day full on panic here with the latest May 2018 update from Microsoft for Server 2008 and 2012. All the RDP (Remote desktop) sessions that used to connect now do NOT connect due to a change in the security settings on any client that has the latest Windows Updates. This has caused us real grief as we run multiple remote sessions onto the VM’s on a 3 node cluster. Only one of the nodes on the cluster ran an automatic update along with a few of the VM’s and we found it made RDP access via either HyperV connect or standard RDP impossible: “An Authentication error has occurred The function requested is not supported/ Remote computer xx.xx.xx.xx This could be due to CredSSP encryption oracle remediation. For more information see https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=899990” Nothing to do with oracle at all and all due to M$ updating security settings on a whim so as to mitigate the external code execution threat: “CVE-2018-0886: "A remote code execution vulnerability exists in unpatched versions of CredSSP. An attacker who successfully exploits this vulnerability could relay user credentials to execute code on the target system. Any application that depends on CredSSP for authentication may be vulnerable to this type of attack." The solution, should any of you encounter this error is to update the server as well as the clients the May 2018 update level, not simply the client or the server. Fortunately this was fairly easy as we migrated all the VM’s onto a spare node, upgraded the empty node and then migrated back and then connected to each VM via HyperV connect and did the 2018-05 updates. At one stage we found ourselves unable to HyperV connect or RDP into any servers as our development machines are all updated automatically. Hence we were in a catch 22 situation….. Can’t connect to server in order to update the server, which would allow connection to the very server we couldn’t connect to. Thank god we had a spare cluster to migrate to! All in all a totally wasted day as some of the retrograde updates took over 60 minutes per VM and we have about 20 of them. Oh Joy! Thanks for the ‘heads up’ Mr Microsoft …. Where can I send the bill? Dave Crozier Software Development Manager Flexipol Packaging Ltd. --------------------------------------------------------------- This communication and the information it contains is intended for the person or organisation to whom it is addressed. Its contents are confidential and may be protected in law. If you have received this e-mail in error you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. Unauthorised use, copying or disclosure of any of it may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or email. Flexipol Packaging Ltd. has taken every reasonable precaution to minimise the risk of virus transmission through email and therefore any files sent via e-mail will have been checked for known viruses. However, you are advised to run your own virus check before opening any attachments received as Flexipol Packaging Ltd will not in any event accept any liability whatsoever once an e-mail and/or any attachment is received. It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they have adequate virus protection. Flexipol Packaging Ltd. Unit 14 Bentwood Road Carrs Industrial Estate Haslingden Rossendale Lancashire BB4 5HH Tel:01706-222792 Fax: 01706-224683 www.Flexipol.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------------- Terms & Conditions: Notwithstanding delivery and the passing of risk in the goods, the property in the goods shall not pass to the buyer until the seller Flexipol Packaging Ltd. ("The Company") has received in cash or cleared funds payment in full of the price of the goods and all other goods agreed to be sold by the seller to the buyer for which payment is then due. Until such time as the property in the goods passes to the buyer, the buyer shall hold the goods as the seller's fiduciary agent and bailee and keep the goods separate from those of the buyer and third parties and properly stored protected and insured and identified as the seller's property but shall be entitled to resell or use the goods in the ordinary course of its business. Until such time as the property in the goods passes to the buyer the seller shall be entitled at any time

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