ProFox March 2018

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing
by AndyHC 28 Mar '18

28 Mar '18

Well gMail always blocks them - I just set Thunderbird to copy them to my inbox On 28-Mar-2018 1:00 AM, Ken Dibble wrote: > Not receiving my own posts? > > [excessive quoting removed by server]

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing
by Gene Wirchenko 28 Mar '18

28 Mar '18

At 13:05 2018-03-27, Ken Dibble <krdibble(a)stny.rr.com> wrote: [snip] >Somebody will probably say "email is not guaranteed to be >instantaneous, yadda yadda, who knows what could be wrong with all >the newfangled filtering, yadda yadda, it's probably at your end, >yadda yadda... > >I've been subscribed to ProFox since I still had some red hair. In >EVERY SINGLE CASE where a message I sent to ProFox did not show up >in under a minute, the problem has been, in EVERY SINGLE CASE, a >problem at the ProFox server. :) It has NEVER been anything else. > >So, Ed, please take a look and see what happened to my messages. Ed, I am having similar problems. I E-mailed you twice about this, and I have not received a reply. What is going on? Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko

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Thread Start Test
by Gene Wirchenko 28 Mar '18

28 Mar '18

Hello: I do not appear to be able to originate threads on ProFox. If you are reading this, I am wrong. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing
by Ed Leafe 28 Mar '18

28 Mar '18

On Mar 27, 2018, at 3:20 PM, Ken Dibble <krdibble(a)stny.rr.com> wrote: > > Ed, if you see any of my messages, please see if my original one is stuck in the filter. Yes, it was marked as spam. I’ll send the first and delete the dupes. -- Ed Leafe

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Re: Get Method Issue with Hidden Property
by Fernando D. Bozzo 27 Mar '18

27 Mar '18

Hi Ken: Sometimes, for unknown reasons, VFP have trouble with hidden properties, and when this happens one of the fixes is unhidding the property, making it public. May be not the best solution, but it's better a bad solution than no solution at all. 2018-03-27 20:21 GMT+02:00 Ken Dibble <krdibble(a)stny.rr.com>: > VFP 9 SP 1, running on Win 7 Ultimate SP 1. > > I know that there can be issues with hidden object properties; that's why > I give the base class "Set" and "Get" methods to deal with them. That's > always supposed to work, right? > > So today somebody's software blew up on the "Get" method for a Shape > object: > > This is in my resize code (I created this long before VFP had Anchors, and > I haven't bothered to change it; the cause of the problem is not that I'm > not using Anchors, and the correct solution for the actual problem cannot > be to ditch my code and use Anchors instead, even though some people may > suggest that.) > > This seems to have happened because of some bizarre anomaly where a user > was previewing a report using the standard VFP report preview window. That > report was called from a window that was opened by another window, both of > which are In-Desktop windows inside my custom-made main window (I don't use > _SCREEN). She closed the preview window, whereupon a shape that is ON THE > MAIN WINDOW, not on the window that should have gotten focus, somehow > executed its Resize() method--so she probably nudged the border of the main > window somehow while playing with the report preview. > > My shape subclass did this: > > thepercent = THIS.ObtainAValue("PercentWidth") > > * PercentWidth is a hidden property of the baseclass. The baseclass code > is this: > PROCEDURE ObtainAValue > LPARAMETERS cTheProperty > > IF PEMSTATUS(THIS,cTheProperty,5) = .T. > * Property exists; the IF statement just said so... > RETURN THIS.&cTheProperty && Error 1734 "Property PERCENTWIDTH > is not found" > ELSE > RETURN 0 > ENDIF > ENDPROC > > That's all of the code involved; I'm not leaving anything out. > > I can't reproduce this myself. > > Needless to say, various users have resized their various forms bazillions > of times, thereby running this code bazillions of times *times* the number > of times Resize() gets called when you're messing with the borders of a > form, without having this happen. This is the kind of stuff that just irks > me. I've seen it before; built-in VFP functions just flat-out lie, leaving > my code with nothing to trust--but it only happens once in a blue moon. > > Any thoughts (other than "Use anchors instead"?) > > Thanks. > > Ken Dibble > www.stic-cil.org > > [excessive quoting removed by server]

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RE: [ADMIN] Testing
by Tracy Pearson 27 Mar '18

27 Mar '18

It's a setting of the list-serve. If I remember right, it's off by default. -----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ken Dibble Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 3:31 PM To: profoxtech(a)leafe.com Subject: [ADMIN] Testing Not receiving my own posts? [excessive quoting removed by server]

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing
by Ken Dibble 27 Mar '18

27 Mar '18

No, it's some peculiarity in my text and/or subject line that some filter's RegEx code did not anticipate, I'm sure. Around Christmas I sent a long email to my brother with about 20 links to Christmas songs on YouTube pages, interspersed with commentary. His email server kept rejecting the message. I eventually broke it down to one of those links by sending them to him one at a time. The one that didn't go through was not immediately distinguishable from any of the others, just another string of random characters, but his ISP insisted on rejecting it, over and over and over. It was a legitimate YouTube link like all the others; click it, the song played, without any unintended or unexpected other results. This is what we have come to in our quests to defeat spam--and the longer this type of strategy is followed--the higher the percentages of legitimate messages that won't be delivered, eventually rendering email useless. Ah well... Ed, if you see any of my messages, please see if my original one is stuck in the filter. Thanks. Ken >I, otoh, am seeing my posts, so it's probably not a global change in >maillist behavior. > >On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 4:06 PM, Ted Roche <tedroche(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 3:30 PM, Ken Dibble <krdibble(a)stny.rr.com> wrote: > >> Not receiving my own posts? > >> > > > > Well, you already know what they say, right? > > > > > > -- > > Ted Roche > > Ted Roche & Associates, LLC > > http://www.tedroche.com > > > >-- >Ted Roche >Ted Roche & Associates, LLC >http://www.tedroche.com > [excessive quoting removed by server]

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing
by Ted Roche 27 Mar '18

27 Mar '18

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 3:30 PM, Ken Dibble <krdibble(a)stny.rr.com> wrote: > Not receiving my own posts? > Well, you already know what they say, right? -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing
by Ken Dibble 27 Mar '18

27 Mar '18

At 03:30 PM 3/27/2018, you wrote: >Not receiving my own posts? I don't think it likes my subject line. I'll try resending with a different subject.

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing
by Ken Dibble 27 Mar '18

27 Mar '18

At 03:30 PM 3/27/2018, you wrote: >Not receiving my own posts? The message to which I am replying was sent out at 3:30 pm EDT March 27 2018. It's in the ProFox archive. I received it almost immediately. Others have seen it and replied. I sent a message at 2:21 pm EDT March 27 2018 with subject: "Get Method Issue with Hidden Property". As of 4:04 pm that message is not in the archive and has not arrived back to me. I resent that message at 3:51 pm EDT March 27 2018. As of 4:04 pm that message is also not in the archive and has not arrived back to me. (And I've already received my own reply to Tracy...) Somebody will probably say "email is not guaranteed to be instantaneous, yadda yadda, who knows what could be wrong with all the newfangled filtering, yadda yadda, it's probably at your end, yadda yadda... I've been subscribed to ProFox since I still had some red hair. In EVERY SINGLE CASE where a message I sent to ProFox did not show up in under a minute, the problem has been, in EVERY SINGLE CASE, a problem at the ProFox server. :) It has NEVER been anything else. So, Ed, please take a look and see what happened to my messages. Thanks! Ken

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